Clint, what an enabler you are
Thanks for the link, I really enjoyed looking at all those clematis vines. I decided to show some brains and looked up diseases of clematis. It turns out our Clematis i. "Durandii" died from clematis wilt, and it is not exclusive to the south. So, I just may order a couple of plants and see what happens. I plan to go with the shorter ones and Sapphire Indigo looks like a winner to me. By the way, the Polish hybridizer whose name I will not attempt, also has a terrific looking honeysuckle I would like to get, but most sites I have visited either don't have it or is sold out. The name is Fragrant Cloud--I won't attempt the Polish name of this one either. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any sales on clematis I want, but I will have to order soon because the weather will be too hot to ship plants if I don't get busy.