Name: Catmint/Robin PNW WA half hour south of Olym (Zone 8a)
thanks, Porkpal. They are little bugs. They don't seem to fly. They sit in the center of the rose. The blooms are rather pale and fall off quickly. Please let me know if there's other specific info I can provide.
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