thanks Rick all those tips are very helpful and will do that.........that is a huge problem here with coming up early..........4 frosts this week has been incredible and a lot of covering involved.....I never knew you could post on mulch in the snow. Last year the problem was that the ground did not freeze early it waited. we still had green grass and warms temps at Christmas but then after that LOOK out freezing cold and snow. We have a lot of freeze/thaw that happens here in the winter and into the springtime.