we have some orientals that cant seem to pop out of the ground anywhere near where we planted them! one finally came up a few weeks ago out from under a landscape brick that was about 8 inches from where it was planted! we saw it poking out gasping for air, we moved the brick and low and behold, there was a 10 inch long stem coiled upon itself that eventually worked its way out from under the brick! it probably would have been fine, but we decided to not put the brick back after all!