You are very right zuzu. This matches the proverb. So does some of the varieties we have in our gardens. As amateur gardeners, we have to stop at one stage and be satisfied. This is why there is a need for an entry where cultivar identity can be difficult. In case someone wants, that plant photo is always there for further identification, if one thinks of it. Then they can be moved. I know it takes a lot of work and time but till then they can be there.
