@Lalambchop1 Leslie, I noticed that you mentioned Jerry Pate Williams. That is the only daylily I have ever lost! I've always heard that it is very vigorous, but it didn't survive last winter. I'll pick up another one the next time I'm in Utah. The nursery there always carries it. I'm glad to hear that it is a good parent, because that is why I bought it! I just never got around to using it. Do you always cross it with other doubles? If not, has it been good at passing along the double? I noticed in the database that most, if not all, of the other daylilies it was crossed with were doubles.