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Aug 6, 2015 4:56 AM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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@Natalie - That's what I thought, too! Thumbs up Big Grin ....about the poly bloom, I mean. That would make sense for the pod in the last picture because that's from my Olallie Red, which had two poly blooms this year...but Olallie Red was my only daylily to poly--aside from natural poly-ers like my Give Me Eight, of course. The 4-part seedpod from the middle picture, however, is on my "Fear Not" and it only had a few blooms this year (it only had a single scape) and not one of them was a poly. Blinking :confused:

@admmad - Maurice, thank you for sharing all of the great information! That's helpful to know about the multi-part stigma. That might be why I ended up with a four-part seedpod, but I honestly don't remember there being a multi-part stigma on the Fear Not. Maybe I just didn't see it? (Most of my multi-part stigmas were on Olallie Red, Black Plush, Thanks Two Friends, and a couple of others in my garden.) Hmm.

admmad said:There are a very few (rare) cultivars that always produce only white seeds. Those white seeds are presumably mature and caused by a genetic mutation that prevents those specific cultivars from making the normal black pigment. 'Moonlight Orchid' is one of the cultivars that has been described as producing white seeds.

That is so interesting! Where did you get this information from, if I may? This could be really useful information to include in the ATP database! I don't know if this is the same thing or not, but I know of one hybridizer who told me her pod parent wasn't any good because it kept producing grey seeds--is it possible that those seeds were viable, but just improperly pigmented? Or are grey seeds always a sign of infertility?

Your information about the time to maturity for the seeds is really helpful, too. I don't know how hot Maryland summers get...ours was consistently hot for a few weeks though with no rain for just over two weeks straight to cool it down at all. It was only in the high 80's to 90's, but the direct sun might have made it seem hotter (especially to the plants). Hard to say.

I will try to capture the white seeds if they fall out. If they fall out while still white, I'll do a pinch test to see if they might be viable. Since they are on my Olallie Red (and not a lighter-colored cultivar), I have to imagine that the plant can make the appropriate pigmentation, but we'll see. Smiling

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