Thanks, Zuzu I understand. Sometimes if I am having sinus issues the strong scents will really bother me. So I can understand if people don't like it. I will look up the one's you have mentioned.
Paul I tried Sheila's Perfume and it didn't survive the winter here. I am not one to go through a lot of effort with winter protection. I just let the pine needles and oak leaves that blow against the fence where the roses are, stay. A local nursery told me they stopped carrying it because of it's lack of hardiness here, so I'm not alone. I'll check out Granada, I think I had that one on my wishlist before.