I got a couple from C & T this year as well. I would agree that they were small but they are growing just fine. They are in Colorado, thus the small size. I was happy with BlueJ and they sent 3 intros as a bonus for a rather small order. I'm suffering major losses with the Schreiners I planted this year with the dreaded rot. This coming season my major order will be with Hummingbird (I think). The 'Honoring' forum is killing my budget!