Becky I will do up the ratings for all mine for both your threads. I have noticed the difference in some of the ratings too: between what is published and what I see. I think it might have something to do with health of the plant for one. Many also do better against rust in the cooler months even though we have mild winters. I also notice some cultivars fight back producing variable results even in summer. But others, like Bat Masterson, just will lose nearly all its chlorophyll if not sprayed.