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This is a lovely arachnoideum type semp when grown well. Observing it over the years I find that it does not do well in full sun during our 2 to 3 months of drought season here in the Pacific Northwest. It tends to burn easily under full sun conditions. If given some protection during the hottest part of the day, say 1/2 day sun or filtered bright light, they will reward you with a lovely colony of web covered semps. Most of the webbing disappears during the wet winter and spring months, but returns with vigor once things warm up and dry out.

Here is some history on the lovely sempervivum:

JungleShadows said: It's one that I gave the whole clump to Toby (Young's Garden Center). It's number was A2-7 and my notes say "bright red, with better red color than Killer". That's about right. It also seems to be one of the bigger ones from the self pollination, harking more back to Killer's pod parent in form and color.

Kevin

youngsgarden said:"That's one of Kevin's (Vaughn's) cultivars. It was one from the first year that
he got back into hybridizing semps.
He was using Killer a lot then if I recall correctly.
Because there were so many good varieties in Kevin's first batch of seedlings,
that one was never officially named.
We kept the unnamed seedling because we liked it a lot and it increases well.
One of our children started calling it Dragon's Eye so
when we began selling it in 2016 we just put that name to it.
Hope that helps,
Toby Lander
Young's Garden"

This is a natural form of sempervivum marmoreum, not a tectorum:
Sempervivum schlehanii var. Tokajense Domokos in Magyar Kir. Kert. Tanintéz. Közlem. 2: 39. 1936.
From: Letz, D. R .: A new species of the Sempervivum marmoreum group
In Central Europe

After having no offsets for a few years, Waldaline is making up for lost time.

Slow to multiply for me.

turini said:Mother of 'Little Miss Sunshine' is 'Bronze Pastel', Father unknown. Mother of 'Bronze Pastel' is S. marmoreum ssp. erythraeum ex (from) RILA - Bulgaria, father of 'Bronze Pastel' is S. marmoreum 'Chocolate'

I no longer grow this sempervivum because of considerable winter die back in my zone 7 garden.

This cultivar has been culled from my zone 7 collection of Sempervivum due to constant winter damage even when covered to protect from the rain.

Shirley's Joy has been nothing but a disappointment. This cultivar every winter dies back to the brink of death, then as the growing season progresses it recovers but never looks outstanding in my zone 7 garden. My Sempervivum gardens are covered during the rainy season and still this cultivar is a poor performer.

This sempervivum has been culled from my collection after repeated winter damage even when covered all winter. Seems to almost die and then when spring comes it rebounds but never looks outstanding. Many other cultivars that will perform better can replace this.

There is a lot of confusion surrounding the naming of this sempervivum. S. 'Donar Rose' should look like the top photo, with tufting at the tip of the leaves and relatively long cilia along the leaf edges.

Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Donar Rose')
Photo by springcolor

S. 'Donarrose' is a smooth tectorum type of sempervivum. Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum tectorum 'Donarrose')

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum tectorum 'Donarrose')
Photo by valleylynn

Here is a link to a discussion on these two sempervivum. The thread "Donar Rose verses Donarrose" in Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum

You can see they are very different types of semps.

There is a lot of confusion surrounding the naming of this sempervivum. S. 'Donar Rose' should look like the top photo, with tufting at the tip of the leaves and relatively long cilia along the leaf edges.

Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Donar Rose')
Photo by springcolor

S. 'Donarrose' is a smooth tectorum type of sempervivum. Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum tectorum 'Donarrose')

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum tectorum 'Donarrose')
Photo by valleylynn

Here is a link to a discussion on these two sempervivum. The thread "Donar Rose verses Donarrose" in Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum

You can see they are very different types of semps.

A comment by Truls Jensen:

Rosa Spumanti and Spumanti are siblings but individual cultivars. Spumanti was a volunteer seedling that was profusely netted and that produced many small offsets so that when grown in a container it appears to be foaming over, hence the name Spumanti (foam or sparkling in Italian). Rosa Spumanti is similar except the rosettes are slightly larger and blushed with red and not quite as 'sparkly'.

I'll take a look at the chapter this evening.

Truls
Wild Ginger Farm
24000 Schuebel School Rd
Beavercreek, OR 97004

A comment by Truls Jensen:

Rosa Spumanti and Spumanti are siblings but individual cultivars. Spumanti was a volunteer seedling that was profusely netted and that produced many small offsets so that when grown in a container it appears to be foaming over, hence the name Spumanti (foam or sparkling in Italian). Rosa Spumanti is similar except the rosettes are slightly larger and blushed with red and not quite as 'sparkly'.

I'll take a look at the chapter this evening.

Truls
Wild Ginger Farm
24000 Schuebel School Rd
Beavercreek, OR 97004

Information from Kevin Vaughn:

JungleShadows said:Lynn,
BTW I did hear from Janis Noyes that Gary did change the name from 'First Try' to 'Pacific First Try' even though it was introduced without the "Pacific" part.

Kevin

A comment from Kevin Vaughn:

JungleShadows said:There's an amusing story on 'Streaker'. When Ed sent in a picture of that plant to he Sempervivum Society Peter Mitchell didn't believe it and said "It must be an Aeonium". Of course that was really silly as Aeoniums would have NEVER survived the winter in OH!

I was surprised it is still around as it is such a slow grower. Even Ed, who could really grow them well, only had a few plants after several years.

Kevin

valleylynn said:Kevin do you know anything about the parentage of 'Rita Jane'.

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Rita Jane')
Photo by valleylynn

I look forward to seeing what you get from the 'Rita Jane' seedlings. That could be very interesting.

JungleShadows said:Lynn,

All the ones of Sandy MacPherson's except 'Oddity' were from bee crossed seedlings that appeared in the garden. If I had to guess i would say 'Purdy's 70-40' as a parent as it has such wide leaves too.

The seedlings from 'Rita Jane' are showing extremely wide leaves but of course not much color at the moment.

OK out to the garage to clean seed. Good job for a rainy miserable afternoon!

Kevin

Absolutely love this semp! One of my all time favorites. Goes through many color changes, but unlike most semps this one has fantastic colors even during the hottest part of the summer. It's a large plant with many of mine being 9" +. I have it planted in several places in my yard and it looks a bit different in every area, but always beautiful. Produces lots of chicks once established. Give it plenty of room to grow.

Great semp, quite large and goes through lots of color changes. Produces many offsets, so give it plenty of room to grow. An added bonus is the beautiful watermarks. Most semps have pink flowers, but this has a creamy off-white flower with a green stripe down each petal, and the flower stalks are huge!

I find 'Oddity' to be quite temperamental when planted in the ground in our zone 4 climate. It tends to rot in the spring from too much moisture when the snow melts. I built a bit of a mound for it this summer with lots of grit incorporated into the soil. We'll see if that helps.