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Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Dec 29, 2018 6:42 PM CST
This rose has been outside the public loos in Deloraine for as long as I can remember. I would love to know it's name so I can try to order it here before resorting to taking a cutting in the dead of night. It is between 3 - 4ft high and wide. I don't know if it has a scent as my nose is too busy with hayfever to notice. It gets BS but still blooms well.
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Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Dec 31, 2018 5:14 PM CST
I have no clue what it is but it sure is a pretty one!
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Dec 31, 2018 5:29 PM CST
It is in the centre of town so I will take a cutting early on a Sunday morning before anyone is around. The cutting I did of Charles Rennie Mackintosh that was looking fabulous is now in the ground and struggling. The one of Windermere that I thought was dead but I put in the ground anyway, is flowering now. I'm not good with cuttings but I really want this rose so I will try to get some going.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Dec 31, 2018 5:48 PM CST
Looks like an Austin to me??? Scepter'd Isle?? I don't really know. Big Grin Good job with your cuttings!!
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Dec 31, 2018 5:59 PM CST
It doesn't have enough petals to be SI, but it does look like an Austin. I will go through the Austin catalogue to see if I can find it.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Dec 31, 2018 7:00 PM CST

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It looks like Comtes des Champagne to me.

Rose (Rosa 'Comtes des Champagne')
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Dec 31, 2018 7:13 PM CST
I've got CdC and although some of the blooms look similar it is not it. CdC starts off yellow then gradually fades through pink to white. Some of the blooms on CdC have more petals than others but the mystery rose has blooms that are all the same. Perhaps it isn't an Austin? I've looked through their website and only Desdemona and The Shepherdess are similar in some respects but it is not them either.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Dec 31, 2018 7:37 PM CST

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Yes, Desdemona's too new (introduced in 2015), and even The Shepherdess (2007) might be too new if this rose has been there for as long as you can remember. Maybe it's one of Amanda Beales' shrubs. They're more likely to have a simple bloom like this one than the Austins are.
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Dec 31, 2018 8:32 PM CST
I can't find anything on Beales roses being available here. I guess it will have to remain a mystery unless I find the person who planted it for the local council way back when.
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Mustbnuts
Jan 4, 2019 9:30 PM CST
OK, Lola, totally off topic here. I just saw pictures of a Quokka. They are different than your Pademelon? Are they related? The Quokka seems smaller than your Pademelon. Do you have Quokka's too?
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Jan 4, 2019 10:41 PM CST
It reminds me of pictures of Belle story. There's also another Austin I've seen I'll have to look it up.
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jan 4, 2019 11:44 PM CST
Mustbnuts - Quokkas are related to my pademelons and to all marsupials. Quokkas are the happiest and friendliest creatures on the planet. They have no fear of humans and will happily pose for selfies with tourists. Quokkas live on Rottnest Island and a couple of smaller islands on the Western Australian coast.
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jan 4, 2019 11:46 PM CST
Vaporvac - I have Belle Story and it's not that. It is more peach in colour.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jan 4, 2019 11:51 PM CST

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OMG. Look at these little darlings. They're like puppy-bears.

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Name: Sue Taylor
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kniphofia
Jan 5, 2019 12:58 AM CST
Jacqueline du Pre?
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jan 5, 2019 12:59 AM CST
Thanks for the link. I have just spent a happy half hour cooing over quokkas. They really are the best creatures on the planet.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jan 5, 2019 1:06 AM CST

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Good guess, Sue. Your photos in that entry are quite similar to Lola's photos of the mystery rose.

Rose (Rosa 'Jacqueline du Pre')
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jan 5, 2019 1:07 AM CST
Kniphofia - It looks remarkably like your database photos of JDP except it doesn't have any red in the centre. Does JDP have a peachy colour rather than pink? Does it sometimes not have red in the centre?
Name: Sue Taylor
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kniphofia
Jan 5, 2019 2:22 AM CST
I think the aging blooms are more likely to have the red centre.
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jan 5, 2019 6:03 PM CST
I've been to town and had a good look at the rose and it is not JDP. It has a strong rose perfume and is definitely peach coloured fading to white.

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