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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 7, 2019 2:59 PM CST
We need to buy a new washing machine. Oh, the thrill. Rolling my eyes.

After reading review after review my head is thoroughly spinning and I'm ready to buy my wife a scrub-board...but, I know she would only use it on my head. So, I gotta do better than that.

Has anybody bought a new machine in the last year or two that they can recommend. I keep hearing horror stories of the new machines only filling the tubs with a cup of water....really low water levels that can't be increased. I've nothing against saving water but I do want well cleaned *and* rinsed clothes, towels, etc.,.

Then there is the impeller versus agitator debate. I'm kind of a traditional guy so I'm leaning towards an agitator. My wife, on the other hand, likes the idea of not having an agitator taking up room in the middle of the tub....her thoughts on this primarily are directed to washing comforters and bulky things. Our old (deathbed) washer is a 3.5c.f. one. I'm wondering if we went up to something like a 4.3c.f. one that had the agitator if the extra room would help with the larger items.

Any thoughts or recommendations are appreciated. Btw, I've gotta do something like...this evening or tomorrow. Thanks.

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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 8, 2019 9:21 AM CST
Ok, seems everybody is using washboards...I knew this was a tough crowd!!!! Hilarious!

How about... Do you have a washing machine with an impeller (not an agitator) and do you like it?

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Name: Vicki
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Pinetucky
Jan 8, 2019 10:43 AM CST
We went through this a couple of years ago. At that time, I was certain I wanted a front-loader washer. Then I started researching, looking for the most reliable models, and found too many horror stories. So I started looking at the HE top-loaders (without agitators). Reviews were better but still indicated problems with water levels, sensors, etc.

In the end we decided to go with the traditional top-loader with an agitator, and we decided that the more basic the machine was, the more likely it was to be reliable. We purchased a Speed Queen washer and have been very happy with it. It does have an Eco water saver cycle but we haven't used it. The washer is noisier than our previous Kenmore. That's not a problem for us. (The matching dryer we also bought is also noisier.) The machine seems to be built solidly. I can fit a queen-sized comforter into it without a problem. We are very happy with our Speed Queen, made in USA.

Having said that, our daughter has an LG front loader that she really likes. She's had it for at least 5 years, and they had one minor repair last year.
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Dirtmechanic
Jan 8, 2019 6:03 PM CST
We bought some intermediate Whirpool units 10 or so years ago. My wife washes almost daily. I had some bearings replaced this year in the washer. Not bad, I have had worse. The washer is a topload with a very high spin speed. This was a feature that ultimately made overall sense, because the dryer uses a lot of juice and drier clothes going in dry faster on a shorter run time. The HE aspect is ok, but you can change settings to get what you want so thats no biggie. Mostly we run it on normal settings, but I always have to change the spin to high speed, so if that was a default I would like it better. Size matters too, being able to wash a comforter is handy.
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crawgarden
Jan 8, 2019 6:34 PM CST
We have an LG Tromm front end loader for the past 10 years, no problems.
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Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
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RpR
Jan 8, 2019 7:20 PM CST
Find a good used TOTALLY analog maching, you can make it do what you want , including having the lid open while it runs and they are cheaper to fix.
I found out from a hardware store that actually sells coin-operated machines, they had one on display, there are new ones that look analog but it is now illegal to sell such machines.
Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 9, 2019 9:17 AM CST
Thanks everybody, for the feedback. I ended up going with a Whirlpool 4.3 cu ft WTW5000DW. It is the one my wife initially picked out and after determining that even the agitator-type washers are all HE I figured "what the hay?"...Hopefully it will work well. Installation when fairly well until I got to the last part...hooking the drain up. Seems they've gone to a smaller drain hose than what was on the Whirlpool that this one is replacing. In our old house setup the drain hose/line is sealed due to the house design.<sigh> We have a vacuum/siphon-breaker inline between the washer drain hose and the drain line going outside. So now I've got to adapt the different sized hose to the line. Looks like a job for "SHOE GOO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nodding

Anyhow, I'll post back when we get it up and draining and let ya'll know out (hopefully good) experience!!! Thumbs up
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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 10, 2019 9:52 PM CST
I managed to cobble together the drain hose and got it going today. I ended up having some "Plumber's Goop" at the shop so I decided to use that. From what folks have said on the internet it takes from 24 to 48 hours to cure. I gave it 24 hours and kept it warm, even heated it a few times with the hair-dryer. Ended up washing a load of t-shirts and shorts, two loads (11 pair) of blue jeans, a load of white socks, and a load of shirts. The impeller washer seemed to do ok. I think I need a less-scented detergent than Gain, though. I used a trial-size Tide "pod" for a small load and I think I like its more conservative scent.

It's definitely different from all the other washers I've used, lots more clicks and whirs and stops and starts. I guess it knows what it's doing 'cause I sure don't!!!! Green Grin!

Anyhow, I don't have to stand up my blue jeans in the corner of the bedroom anymore... nodding
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Name: Karen
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plantmanager
Jan 11, 2019 1:18 PM CST
Enjoy your new washer! I tried the Tide Pods and they drove me crazy. The scent was so strong. I didn't mind it in the towels, but didn't like smelling it all day on my clothing.
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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 12, 2019 2:46 PM CST
plantmanager said:Enjoy your new washer! I tried the Tide Pods and they drove me crazy. The scent was so strong. I didn't mind it in the towels, but didn't like smelling it all day on my clothing.

Good thing we're all different. Otherwise, there'd only be one brand/scent/color/etc of different things. Thumbs up I'm wearing some of the Gain-washed clothes today and the scent if a tad too strong for me. Could be the thoroughness of the rinse cycle....could be a single-pod is too much for what I thought was a medium load.. Shrug!

I think once we get the detergent-to-load-size ration figured out, which cycle for sure to use (one with extra water?) and whether to use a 2nd rinse cycle we'll be closer to betting satisfied. I think it's just a fine-tuning that we need to do now...in other words, I think the machine is working ok and we just need to adapt to it.
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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Jan 12, 2019 5:47 PM CST
Sorry I'm late to the party. But we also bought a new Speed Queen front loader about a year ago and I love it. A repair man told me they're built for commercial use, never break down, are made in America too.

I have soft water so need very little detergent. I have very sensitive skin and the dermatologist recommends All Free and Clear detergent. It has no fragrance, and seems to clean very well. I love that. Also, she recommends a second rinse on all laundry because she says the newer washers (H.E.) use so little water that the clothes are never rinsed well enough with one rinse cycle.

We recently moved our washer and dryer from the basement to a second floor bedroom. Best thing we've ever done to this house in 35 years! I love it!
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I hope these suggestions help. Good luck with your new washer.

Karen

Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 13, 2019 10:08 AM CST
Thanks for the feedback, Karen. Those Speed Queens are good machines. My father sold large appliance for about three decades...50's through 70's and Speed Queen was his line of washers. They are very good, but limited nowadays to 3.2cuft for top loaders.

One thing you might want to do is schedule a hook-up hose replacement for the hot and cold water connections. Maybe every 5-6 years(?). Though I've had them be fine for well over 10 years my sister came home (single-story) to her flooded house because a hook-up hose burst. It was a mess. Reputable appliance stores require new hook-up hoses for new installations. Your Speed Queen could possibly last longer than the hoses. Being on the second floor I would err on the side of caution, replacing the hoses all along with quality hoses. Cheap insurance. FWIW.

I had the "Free and Clear" type of detergent recommended on another forum to me. My wife desires a scented detergent, though I prefer unscented. But, I can deal with *some* scent...gotta keep mama happy, ya know. Smiling I've looked at the All "Free and Clear" and may pick some of that up or either some Kirkland/Costco "Free and Clear". The Costco brand has a high Consumer Reports rating. I'm seeing that the Costco brand only comes in liquid, I think. It appears that All is limited to smaller boxes of powdered. I prefer powdered detergent, if I can get it. Will have to study over that! Thumbs up
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teacup754
Jan 13, 2019 10:22 AM CST
I got a Speed Queen top loader several years ago after my DH did a ton of research, as he always does before a major purchase. I told him I wanted something easy to use, no bells and whistles, just the basic washing options and the ability to adjust the size of the load, and water temp. Since it is just the two of us we don't do that much laundry each week. I have been using a laundry soap from HSN called Nellie's natural laundry soda for the last year. Only uses a very small scoop so lasts a long time, no fragrance I can detect.
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kqcrna
Jan 13, 2019 11:18 AM CST
Yes, when we moved the washer + dryer upstairs, we replaced all the hoses with brand new steel reinforced ones, and plan to replace them often. Also, if you look at my photo closely you can see that both the W+D are sitting in a custom made stainless steel pan, which has a drain line straight to my basement. So if we ever would have a leak, that should minimize the damage. Also, if we go out of town, we turn off the water supply to the whole house.

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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 13, 2019 11:40 AM CST
teacup754 said:I got a Speed Queen top loader several years ago after my DH did a ton of research, as he always does before a major purchase. I told him I wanted something easy to use, no bells and whistles, just the basic washing options and the ability to adjust the size of the load, and water temp. Since it is just the two of us we don't do that much laundry each week. I have been using a laundry soap from HSN called Nellie's natural laundry soda for the last year. Only uses a very small scoop so lasts a long time, no fragrance I can detect.

SQ changed their top loaders this year and went to push-button, from what I can tell. More electronics.<sigh> You were correct in choosing a washer with the least bells and whistles...less parts to break down!!! Thumbs up

Thanks for the tip on Nellie's soap!

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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
Jan 13, 2019 11:41 AM CST
kqcrna said:Yes, when we moved the washer + dryer upstairs, we replaced all the hoses with brand new steel reinforced ones, and plan to replace them often. Also, if you look at my photo closely you can see that both the W+D are sitting in a custom made stainless steel pan, which has a drain line straight to my basement. So if we ever would have a leak, that should minimize the damage. Also, if we go out of town, we turn off the water supply to the whole house.

Karen

Great move on the plumbed pans!!!! It sounds like ya'll have things pretty well figured out. Smiling
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Sheridragonfly
Mar 16, 2019 4:45 PM CST
I wanted a speed queen but no one to work on one close to my home.
I also wanted a top loading washer that you can get deep water rinse.
Most you can not add a bucket of water to them.

I got a Maytag from Lowes 4.2 cubic foot
top loader and it does HAVE the deep water selection!
It cleans well...

I do not like any of the washers as they take so long
to go through any cycle chosen...you are looking at 1 and half hours
it seems on any wash cycle..or it seems that long,

also dislike all the electronics and mother board as I call it
but that is what you get...and none are made to last years
like we used to have...no matter how careful you are
and how much you pay.

Just my two cents
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Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
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RpR
Mar 16, 2019 4:59 PM CST
Sharon got a new Samsung , a year or so ago.
Top loader so you can add water if you choose.
Her's has light, medium and large load settings.
Don't these new machines you are speaking of have this any more?
She just got a post card where she may be eligible for a settlement for certain Samsung machines but I do not think hers is one.
After I write this I am going on-line to check. Sighing!
Her's is not one of the bad ones.
Odd thing is , they kept sending warnings to check her machine, and I checked , replied, her's was not in the group but it just kept coming.

She tried the Neptune years back and of course that particular washer was Maytag's snafu so no more front loader for her, ever.
The old analog mechanical ones, though some were hard on clothes, especially T-shirts, are still better as you can make it do want you want. I tip my hat to you.
From what a Speed Queen dealer told me, it is illegal to make those now.
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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Mar 16, 2019 5:18 PM CST
I'm still loving my Speed Queen. To make sure they are well rinsed I use the optional second rinse. The "quick wash setting" takes 28 minutes, I believe, or 32 minutes with the second rinse. A third rinse is also an option. I love it.

Karen

Alaskalady
Mar 16, 2019 7:39 PM CST
Maytag used to be a reliable brand that did not break down much. They also had good service. I gather that people think this is still true.

I do not know personally because I sort of do mine by hand. I cheat, however. I use a five gallon bucket with a hole in the lid. The hole is to allow the handle of a dedicated toilet plunger to fit though with the lid on. You just plunger a few strokes into the bucket full of soapy water and laundry.

This gets your laundry cleaner than a washing machine, without too much effort. You just plunger into fresh rinse water two or three times.

Wringing is the hardest part. The small stuff is ok, but bigger things can get too hard. You can make a wringer from another five gallon bucket. Just drill plenty of holes in the sides and bottom.

You put wet laundry inside the holey bucket and put a whole bucket on top of the wet laundry. Then you sit on top of the whole bucket and squeeze out the water. The water drains out of the holes. I do this inside my bathtub so the water goes down the drain. Outside would work unless it is freezing.

A clothesline or drying rack are next. If I am in a hurry, I put a fan directed on the drying laundry.

This does not need electricity and is not hard or expensive.

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