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Mustbnuts
Jan 14, 2019 10:33 PM CST
I have been busy pruning my roses for the past week. Today, I was pruning Plum Perfect (it does live up to its name). Behind two of the plants were small rose plants that had tiny buds on them. I thought perhaps I had left some root from the other own root plant I had where I placed Plum Perfect. Imagine my surprise when I pulled on the small rose plant and this is what I got. The root was long and it ran sideways. Reminded me of a fig tree root.

All of my roses in my garden are own root, so I doubt it is Dr. Huey. Plus, for as long as I have been in this house (16 years), there has only been own root roses in this spot. The root went into the part of the planter where I have my Pretty Jessica (again own root). I compared the leaves on this plant with Plum Perfect and with Pretty Jessica and they both look the same as the little plant with the big root that I pulled out. I have not heard that either Pretty Jessica or Plum Perfect will create runner plants. But that doesn't mean anything.

Both of these plants back up to my fence between me and my neighbor. Whether or not she has roses there, who knows? Is this Dr. Huey perhaps from my neighbor or is one of my plants creating runners and new plants? Or is this a leftover from my former plant, Midnight Blue which I pulled out but may have missed a root?


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The whole thing with the root attached (sorry for the stains on the floor of my garage)
Name: Bea
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bumplbea
Jan 14, 2019 10:40 PM CST
The bottom pic hard to see the size of leaves but sorta looks like a miniature.
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vaporvac
Jan 15, 2019 12:18 AM CST
You should pot it up and get your answer. I had the same thing with Mme. Norbert LeVavasseur. I thought maybe it was a seedling, but it had a sideways root at least 2' long. I got so tired of digging I actually just cut it . Surprisingly, it took when transplanted. This plant is nearing 100yrs old and it's the only indication of it "wandering"!
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porkpal
Jan 15, 2019 8:36 AM CST
I don't think it looks like Dr Huey. Why not pot it up and find out what it grows into?
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Rebekah
Jan 18, 2019 9:58 PM CST
That's really odd but it looks like a runner to me. I'd pot it up, the rose gave you a freebe. Wouldn't it be cool if it was a sport? :)
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Mustbnuts
Jan 19, 2019 8:53 AM CST
Well there were three plants along the root. I pulled two of them and left one. I think it is Midnight Blue. There may be more plants but the root went under the fence into my neighbor's yard, so who knows. I think my gladioli bulbs also migrated to her back yard as well. The stuff from her yard that wanders into mine, I don't want! Mostly crabgrass and other weeds!
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scvirginia
Feb 17, 2019 6:25 PM CST
If a decent-sized piece ended up 'trapped' close to the ground, one of your existing roses could have 'layered'. Also, if you pruned, and nice bit dropped to the ground, it could have rooted. Or it could be a piece of 'Midnight Blue' that you missed.

I think these scenarios are more likely than any of those modern roses having runners, although I never bet against plants doing the unexpected. With that long root, I do not think it's a volunteer seedling...

I'll join the chorus of "pot it up, and see". I hope you'll remember to update this post if/when you do solve your mystery, but will confess that I'd probably forget if it were me! Smiling
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Mustbnuts
Feb 17, 2019 9:59 PM CST
I still have that one tiny (but growing) plant behind my Plum Perfect, so we shall see what happens when it blooms in a couple of months.

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