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Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Feb 6, 2019 1:09 AM CST
I have been working on converting my backyard into a rose central, and I thought I'd share the design progress made so far. The following visuals are pretty much self-explanatory. The theme I am going for is a formal English rose garden.

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Correction: I decided to go with Winchester Cathedral instead of Molineaux tree rose. I feel with respect to the color coordination; white will blend it well with Polka and Ink Spots than yellow.

Note: Climbing roses will be trained to take over the pillars along the fence as seen in the following visuals.

Left planting area:

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Further along the left fence/planting area:

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Trellis will be installed (5' away from the bark of the tree) around the tree to train Marven Hills rambler. The goal here is to train it to grow onto the tree from the trellis.

Along the center-back fence:

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Right fence:

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Center/main planting area:
This image gives an overall view of the pillar installation (for the climbers) along the three sides of the fence. You will notice the center area itself left barren. I intentionally left it that way, because I couldn't come up with a design idea or find an inspiration :-/
I do know that Don Juan will be taking over the arbor that will act as "an entrance" into the rose central. One thing that I don't want to do is to rush things through, even though I am tempted to, because this is my dream project, so I will let the time help me come up with design inspiration. And it also gives me a chance to order more roses for next season.

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Right planting area:

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I cut a big hole at the bottom of the containers before burying it into the ground. By doing so, the roots will be able to move into the ground when it runs out of space in the container.

I am not sure about boxwood hedge, but I think a low boxwood hedge along the border (seen in the image below), will give the garden a formal touch.

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Name: Lola
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LolaTasmania
Feb 6, 2019 1:24 AM CST
Wow! That is very impressive and ambitious, Shyam. If you don't want the hassle of trimming the boxwood you could do a dwarf lavender hedge that would only need trimming once a year.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Feb 6, 2019 1:33 AM CST

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This is exciting! It's going to be so much fun following your progress. You've chosen some fantastic roses and arranged them in pleasing combinations.
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Feb 6, 2019 8:37 AM CST
Such an ambitious project that will be beautiful for years to come. I do like your grow lights and think they add a nice touch. Looks like your neighbor will also benefit from the lovely rose garden that you will be creating! Looks so pretty! Congrats! I know you put a lot of time, effort, $, and energy in this and it is just going to be beautiful when it is done. Love the colors.
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Mustbnuts
Feb 6, 2019 8:38 AM CST
Oh, one quick question on this. What software do you use to draw your garden?
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Feb 6, 2019 11:40 AM CST
Holey Moley Shyam!!! That's going to be incredible!!! I can't wait to see your dream come together! It's amazing to see a planner like yourself in action...we're lucky to start with you on the ground floor. Oh wow!!!! Lovey dubby
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Feb 6, 2019 11:17 PM CST
LolaTasmania said:Wow! That is very impressive and ambitious, Shyam. If you don't want the hassle of trimming the boxwood you could do a dwarf lavender hedge that would only need trimming once a year.


@LolaTasmania: I love that idea! Thanks!!!
Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Feb 6, 2019 11:19 PM CST
@MustbNuts: Thank you!
I used SketchUp by Trimble for foundation design, and photoshop for the rose visuals and such.

@Canadian_Rose: You're kind, thanks! I am excited and nervous. I hope it all comes together in the end. Fingers crossed.
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Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Feb 6, 2019 11:52 PM CST
@Zuzu: Thanks to you and others here for inspiring me with all the gorgeous rose collections!
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Feb 7, 2019 1:20 AM CST
Shyam - I was going to suggest a hedge of catnip but it would really have become a low hedge of blissed-out kitties, so I changed it to lavender. However, you may prefer the catnip/kittie blend. Smiling
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Feb 7, 2019 1:35 AM CST
Shyam - here's my disasterous planning when I was new to roses. Whistling I was in zone 2 (yes!! zone 2) Sticking tongue out and I wanted to have a row of arched trellises to walk under....so maybe 10 arches. Sigh...I was rose dumb. Zone 2. So I had my husband dig 2 large rectangular beds parallel to each other. Coincidentally they were man-sized. So my neighbor laughingly leaned over his fence and said, "So who do you have buried there?" Hilarious! I have never trusted my judgment again. Hilarious! So believe me, when I say I am beyond impressed with what you are doing! It's going to look fabulous!!!
Carol
Name: J
Phoenix, AZ
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GrowNRepeat
Feb 7, 2019 3:23 PM CST
Actually roses have been planning this for a long long time, from one rose generation to another. Waiting for someone to come along, with help from the bees to get the word out. Before you know it the right person comes along the roses look at each other and say "you're coming with us".
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Name: Jin
Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b)
Plumeriagirl
Feb 7, 2019 6:36 PM CST
Shyam , that is going to look so beautiful when it is done. I can't wait to see. Looks easy but tons of work. Labor of love .
This is so exciting Hurray!
I love the climbers by your fence and Mustbnuts is right. Your neighbours are so lucky to enjoy your roses !
I can't wait to see your garden to grow like English garden .


Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Feb 8, 2019 3:05 AM CST
@Canadian_Rose: Trust me, I had my share of similar experiences when I first started growing roses, that was last summer. I was so focused on visuals of how the roses will beautify the (north facing) front side of the house, that I paid zero attention to the needs of the rose that I place Princess Alexandria of Kent by the stairway entrance. Sure, it grew and put on buds, but it never fully bloomed. What a sad sight that was! As I interacted with others here, I started learning the basics of growing roses and paying attention to the petal counts when choosing a location to plant a rose. So, I ended up moving heavily filled containers all the way from the front side of the house to the backyard. I barely left the bed the next day Hilarious!
It is easy to come up with design visuals, and sometimes it doesn't work out in reality. Thanks to you, and others here for encouraging and motivating me!

@GrowNRepeat: I love what you said, and it makes sense, doesn't it?!?

@Plumeriagirl: Thank you! Here's to hoping everything comes together in the end.
The challenging aspect of this project would be to find an outdoor light fixture that's compatible with medium/standard (E26 base) grow lights to install to make up for less sunlight for the climbers and roses along the fence. I found grow lights, still hunting for light fixtures. I am keeping the double-headed outdoor flood light fixture as a last resort.
Name: Jin
Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b)
Plumeriagirl
Feb 8, 2019 6:15 AM CST
Shyam, it will come together. Cross fingers..I just eye ball my yard and I guess I have to redo my beds but I am not keen on the idea tho. Sighing!
Your design look fabulous. You can see the colours and all and I am sure it will blend out with companion plants very well. It will look beautiful. Just look how detail you are and the pics tell a lot too.
I am still debating on my design but yours is soooo organized and I love it.
Have you started the yard yet ? It will take sometime but make sure you don't over stress your back.
I mess up my back with all the digging especially with big long running roots. They were all over and going deep into grounds and so thick. That put me off like over 6 months. I really hated my back. I was so sorry and hurting. Think I had a pinch nerve or something but there were days I could not moved.
Not, I am back to normal. This time I am taking my sweet , sweet time.
I might post a few videos on your thread about this lady whose name I can't remember now but she has videos on garden answer. She loves boxwood. Loves it so much and she always talk about it. So many different kinds . She replaced boxwood at her home Bec you can see brown patches and replaced better ones that is evergreen . Some don't grow big but be certain height. She is Big on boxwood. Her favorite bush.
I am at work using my phone that is the reason why I can't Google and afraid to lose what I have type out. Later alligator :)


Name: Shyam
San Francisco, CA (Zone 10b)
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Rose_Guy1127
Feb 8, 2019 10:45 AM CST
@Plumeriagirl:
Jin,
Thanks, it took some time to work on rose placement visuals. I'm sorry about your painful back experience! I've hurt my back at the gym once, that led to months of pain and physical therapy. I know what you went through. I started wearing my weightlifting waist belt to protect my back and keep my core right. It helps a bit.
The front right and left area of the backyard is done. I literally spent 8 straight hours to get it done last month because it rained on most of the days, so I made full use of that one clear day. I never did anything like that before. Luckily the next day was Saturday so I got to spend the day in bed watching the reruns of the Golden Girls Hilarious!
All the roses are in grow bags eagerly waiting to settle down in their permanent location. The pillars were delivered yesterday. I have to head to the Sloat nursery to get four glazed pots this weekend. Next week, if it doesn't rain, the pillars will be installed. I may even start planting the ground roses as well. The light fixtures will be the last one installed.
As much as I love roses and my backyard project, I want to get it over with Hilarious!
I'm looking forward to the boxwood videos!
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Feb 8, 2019 11:09 AM CST
All of this talk about aching backs is a precautionary tale. Smiling It is soooo easy to hurt our backs and to overdo things. And it's hard to slow done...especially when you have a vision in your mind about what you want things to be like.

I want to see these boxwood pics too! Boxwood is too tender for here...although I do dearly love it and would love to grow it.
Name: J
Phoenix, AZ
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GrowNRepeat
Feb 8, 2019 12:54 PM CST
Rose_Guy1127 said:

@GrowNRepeat: I love what you said, and it makes sense, doesn't it?!?



It does, yes it does. When your garden is in full bloom, it will bring you an incredible amount of joy and while growing excitement for what's to come. With happiness for all.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Feb 8, 2019 2:14 PM CST
Well said! Smiling
Name: Jin
Orlando, Fl (Zone 9b)
Plumeriagirl
Feb 8, 2019 4:31 PM CST
This garden answer - bought her house last year and she is working a lot. She has so many videos some over an hour some in 10 mins. At her house or parents.
Here is one of the videos. I hope it will post .
https://www.google.com/url?sa=...

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