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Name: Will Currie
Hoke co NC (Zone 8a)
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UncleWill
Apr 11, 2019 7:28 PM CST
Personally I think reforestation would have massive benefits via-a-vie flooding and warming. The company I work for recently butchered a massive amount of trees for questionable reasons and now the owner is griping about erosion. Duh!
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
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McCannon
Apr 11, 2019 8:28 PM CST
RpR said:So were the ones in Minn. and N. Dakota.
You build by water you had better darn well be willing to deal with rising water; if not get the heck out.


Some of those houses were built in the 1700's. People have always lived in them. Yea, they live close to the water. That's how they've always made a living, from the sea.

The aboriginal people of the world and many other cultures share a common respect for nature and the universe, and all of the life that it holds. We could learn much from them!
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
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McCannon
Apr 11, 2019 8:32 PM CST
I've often wondered how many trees were cut down to make railroad ties. And they're doing it. Most of the European countries have gone to concrete ties as a replacement.
The aboriginal people of the world and many other cultures share a common respect for nature and the universe, and all of the life that it holds. We could learn much from them!
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Apr 11, 2019 8:56 PM CST
Greenland was once green enough to have stable Euro. population.
Climate changes, people on the coast are paying the piper.

Scientific studies in Greenland show that the main reason the Euro. population there died out is they did not adapt any of the life style that the native population there used to survive.

Time for people on the coast to face reality.
Washington is built on a swamp and I would not be surprised if that asinine move did not come to grieve in my life time.
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Apr 11, 2019 9:05 PM CST
https://earthobservatory.nasa....
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Apr 11, 2019 9:13 PM CST
McCannon said:I've often wondered how many trees were cut down to make railroad ties. And they're doing it. Most of the European countries have gone to concrete ties as a replacement.

I read , not too long ago why cement ties are not used in more places, beyond simple cost and IIRC, areas with deep winter frost break cement ties apart where wood ones flex.

I just saw a show on railroads in Spain and they have it, at least in places where the rails are held down not on ties but there is some form of base under each spike or hold down, nothing across the rails but then they have the 5 feet 6 inch gauge. As is normal for Europe; Portuagal had 5'6" gauge also but is different enough that trains from each country could not use the other gauge .(The odd gauges, odd at least to the semi-standard 4'8", were carried over to South America, and some areas still use them. )
With diesels a Spaniard developed a system where a moving locomotive's wheel base could changed in or out so now the gauge difference is no longer the huge problem it once was.
I know the British used to use a Bullhead system where the rails when worn were simply flipped over like a mattress, into the the eighties at least.
Now the Bullhead system has been replaced by the U.S. system on all but a few areas.


Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 13, 2019 8:39 AM CST
Watch on the 15th. Info:
https://twitter.com/GretaThunb...
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
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McCannon
Apr 13, 2019 11:23 AM CST
Thanks, Ann. Put a reminder in my phone Thumbs up .
The aboriginal people of the world and many other cultures share a common respect for nature and the universe, and all of the life that it holds. We could learn much from them!
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 13, 2019 12:04 PM CST
Food for thought.

https://medium.com/@danrubinps...
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Apr 13, 2019 12:34 PM CST
You are probably already an expert at something. You are good at music, fixing cars, making friends, writing code, running a business, being a parent, and more. You are passionate about food, hiking, board games, math, painting, building, reading, and so on. You already do a a lot and you already know a lot, and this is exactly what you have to offer. All you have to do is link what you do with climate change, and then you are an activist.

Yes it works well for street hustlers, all they have to do is add the word -- God -- and the are a preacher sucking in thousands, BRILLIANT. Rolling my eyes.
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry
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LysmachiaMoon
Apr 20, 2019 5:24 PM CST
flaflwgrl suggested I repeat post this from my blog, and I do so gladly.
A number of sub-Saharan African countries, faced with the southward expansion of the Sahara due to climate change, have decided to build a wall of TREES. The proposed Great Green Wall will stretch the width of the continent, 8000 kilometres (about 5000 miles) long and 30 km (about 19 miles) wide. The country of Senegal has already planted I believe 11 million trees and the experiment seems to be working. Watch this short report; you'll be amazed:
https://youtu.be/4xls7K_xFBQ

Here in Southcentral PA, I'm doing all I can to reduce our carbon footprint. My best suggestion for gardeners is "build a dead hedge" Otherwise known as a "brush fence." Every piece of pruned wood and brush on my property is added to the dead hedge instead of being burned or chipped. It decays slowly and naturally, and in the interim provides shelter for wildlife, retains moisture in the soil, cools the soil beneath it, acts as a wind break, and filters water and nutrients into the soil.
The end is nothing, the journey is all.
Name: Mac
Soon to be MidCoast, ME (Zone 6a)
Ex zones 4b, 8b, 9a, 9b
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McCannon
Apr 20, 2019 5:50 PM CST
The dead hedge is a great idea if you live in an area where the neighbors won't raise a fuss over it. We harbor a lot of small wild animals here but I think someone would complain about brush fence. We are eventually relocating to an area where that won't be a problem.
The aboriginal people of the world and many other cultures share a common respect for nature and the universe, and all of the life that it holds. We could learn much from them!
Name: Will Currie
Hoke co NC (Zone 8a)
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UncleWill
Apr 20, 2019 6:31 PM CST
Those areas are getting fewer and fewer.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 20, 2019 8:07 PM CST
Since we live in an area where people won't complain and we have the property to spare, we have a brush pile. We don't burn our deadfall, we just have a heap where it all goes. It gets high & then breaks down & gets high again & breaks down again. I watch our neighbors burn theirs and just grit my teeth.
And what is with people who are absolutely obsessed with burning fallen leaves? They are great weed control that eventually breaks down into food & improves the soil. Sometimes I think people are just obsessed with fire. Must be DNA from our cave man days.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: TT
MS Gulf Coast
hiyall
Apr 21, 2019 9:40 AM CST
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This isn't the best garden photo. It's how I am working on a green screen to cover the fence and cable box.

The large shrubs started like the small one probably 10 years ago.
Soil is dry and compacted makes it difficult to get shovel in dirt. I don't want to look at cable box from kitchen window.
Replanted these as small young plants that are growing under the larger bushes around AC unit. We leave some leaves under shrubs helping the seedlings grow and insulating ground around AC unit. We take leaves into the bushes by the fence away from wood planks. Leaves under plants enrich soil and provide habitat for wildlife including birds, turtles, and squirrels! I think these shrubs are cleyera japonica.
Here is another photo showing why it's good to compost or add appropriate food scraps to garden!

PS:. links to 4ocean site, bracelet, and videos showing why and how it's important to clean up and protect environment are posted on the thread about environment issue
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Name: TT
MS Gulf Coast
hiyall
Apr 21, 2019 10:43 AM CST
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Picture of turtle protecting himself from rain by burrowing into the leaves and twigs under the bushes.
Reasons why gardeners should use less chemicals and more nature! 🌻

Name: TT
MS Gulf Coast
hiyall
Apr 21, 2019 11:05 AM CST
When I gaze out window looking at these shrubs, I see pollen floating on breeze. I also see white smoke floating up from neighbors yard. He may be grilling. More likely he is burning leaves. Shrubs need to grow taller faster! No wonder I have sinus infection! One more reason to clean up our environment and climate, for our health and happiness! 😳 Group hug
Name: TT
MS Gulf Coast
hiyall
Apr 24, 2019 7:32 PM CST
https://www.redbull.com/my-en/...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

links to info and youtube video about shrinking glaciers
ice climbing professional explores glacier and gives commentary

I saw an episode on Nightline on April 23 with
ice climber Will Gadd and reporter Will Reeve

very interesting with beautiful (icy!) scenery

Now on NOVA on public TV, show about decreasing amount of water in Dead Sea, problems less water causes and what scientists are doing to try to reverse the damage
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry
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LysmachiaMoon
Apr 27, 2019 7:39 AM CST
I found another really inspiring video about land reclamation/restoration: this one is a bit longer and more detailed, but very worth watching:
https://youtu.be/IDgDWbQtlKI
The end is nothing, the journey is all.
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry
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LysmachiaMoon
Apr 27, 2019 7:41 AM CST
Free trees: If anyone is looking to do some reforestation work, I have FREE silver maple seedlings to give out. Most are just seedlings, but there's tons of them on my property and I hate to destroy them if someone can use them. I wouldn't recommend these as yard or garden trees, but if you have a big area or a park, they will do well.
The end is nothing, the journey is all.

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