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Name: Arlene
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florange
Feb 15, 2019 7:33 PM CST
I've been reluctant to post for so long. I've grown orchids for more than 20 years. When I was in the Volusia County Master Gardener program 15 yr ago, they would tag me to talk to garden clubs about orchids. I enjoyed it immensely! (I live beachside in the Daytona Beach area)

This last weekend, a friend and I attended the Orlando Orchid Club's show. I expected a lot, because I've been to the Boca show, the Miami show, even the Volusia County show. Great displays, wonderful experiences. This time not so much. The venue was too small for the show. Vendors were crowded into a small footprint. I took a camera and never used it. There was no room. They had a podium that had "displays" on but they only offered overgrown orchids with blooms. No displays as such.

I was looking for plants related to my Gptm. Starburst 'Parkside'. I bought this spectacular plant last year at the Volusia show.

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The Volusia show had 5 new vendors from the Orlando area, so I was looking for them at the Orland show. Found them too! Found the specific vendor and told them of my purchase and said that it is in bud. They were excited. I worked with the young daughter of the owner and it worked out well. First purchase was a Zygo. 'Jumpin Jack' that was mature but hadn't bloomed (think stuck low in the greenhouse). Beautiful, big plant. Then they had shelves of small plants, $10 ea or 3 for $25. I looked and found a small Cptra. Sydney Smith 'Green Monkey' then found a Galeopetalum Arlene Armour 'Conching'--just a tiny, tiny plant. My name is Arlene so I couldn't pass it up. My friend bought one of the small plants too.

I was also looking for a Oncidium. Wondered on through the show and found a Dmra Shibumi 'Purple Rain' which is of the Oncidium alliance. I'm one happy lady!

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I started with full size Cattalyeas. They took too much room so I moved to dwarf catts. Got bored with 2-3 wks of bloom then added phals to the mix. I've loved Phalenopsis from the first plant and ended up in 2015 with about 15 of them. My friend and I visited a local grower and I purchased 4 more phals. A short time later, my the phals started rotting and dropping leaves. I took pics and took a plant to the grower to identify the problem. It was a virus and they told me to trash all my plants. Well, one of their plants was the culprit. It started getting black spots and so did the next plant and so on. I cried because a phal I had nurtured for 12 years was a real favorite and I called it "My Old Friend". All of them went into the trash.

I didn't buy any orchids in 2016 or 2017. In 2018 at the Volusia County Master Gardener plant sale, I purchased two beautiful, big phals. One was Dtps. Shu Long Fairy and it had 6 branches:

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Also purchased a white F. Sogo Yukkidian with two 46" spikes.

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And then went to the Volusia Orchid show and purchased 4 more.

Here is what they look like now in the Master Bath

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Everyone is in spike and in a few weeks, it is going to be beautiful! I purchased 2 bamboo stands without thinking of putting one in the tub. It is so lovely I'm going to leave them there as them bloom.

As an afterthought ... I purchased an orchid at the local art show in November. It is a Psychopsis Mariposa 'Green Valley'. I read that you never cut the flower stalk. After a bloom drops, it will grow a bit and forms a new flower. Also it doesn't like being repotted. What???? It's in a 2" pot with old sphagnum moss. Never repot it???? Hurts my soul!!

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I really like this forum and I have lurked for many, many months!
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ctcarol
Feb 15, 2019 8:07 PM CST
Welcome! To the forum! We all welcome new experience from new zones. I hadn't heard anything about virus in Phals before. Something to keep in mind.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Feb 15, 2019 9:27 PM CST

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Hi Arlene,
welcome to the Orchid forum! Such a lovely introductory post! Smiling
Funny you should mention the Gptm. Starburst 'Parkside', I came across this one too at a recent Orchid show and I thought that bloom was spectacular.
Regarding the Psychopsis, I don't have one right now, but previous plants kept on blooming from that same stalk surely for at least a year. And yes, they do seem to sulk when disturbed. I repotted them trying not to disturb them if possible. Smiling
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@florange, this is just a note that I am changing the title of your thread a bit.
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BigBill
Feb 16, 2019 3:18 AM CST
Welcome Florange to our little group. It is great to have a new orchid grower join us. You have some experience which is great so when we offer advice, you will understand that advice. That really makes it easier for everyone.
I love your purchases and your plants, gorgeous!!!
The vendor who claimed that a virus killed your Phalaenopsis was much too quick with a diagnosis. They probably died from a rot, maybe crown rot, which is usually caused by water sitting in the crown of the plant. It kills very quickly.
As Ursula said, Psychopsis hate to be disturbed. Only do it when necessary!!! And as she said with as little disturbance as possible. I had one in my recent nine years in Fort Myers. I repotted it and I thought that I knew what I was doing. WRONG!!! It sulked and died slowly within a year.
Again welcome Welcome! and so nice to make your acquaintance! I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Alice
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ardesia
Feb 16, 2019 6:49 AM CST
Welcome! Arlene, you have some beauties there.

Bill, does rot spread from one plant to another? I can understand one plant rotting if water was left in the throat but I was not aware rot spread from plant to plant as Arlene describes.
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BigBill
Feb 16, 2019 6:56 AM CST
I have heard of Erwinia spreading from plant to plant by splashing water. Erwinia is characterized by soft, watery brown tissue that spreads rapidly within 24-48 hours killing a plant.
I have never had it but books say it smells like wet horses. Never had a 🐎 neither.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Feb 16, 2019 8:00 AM CST

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Bill, some years ago that happened to one of my Phals, which I had hanging outside in the cage. A beautiful healthy plant turned in one day into a stinky mush. I had blamed a Squirrel for "watering" it, but in those days I didn't know to hang the plant a bit tilted so rainwater doesn't sit in the crown.
Name: Arlene
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florange
Feb 16, 2019 8:01 AM CST
Bill, I understand crown rot! What is interesting is that the "infected plant" showed symptoms within a month of purchase. I usually keep my phals for many years because I water with a paper towel in hand in case I get water on the plant. I don't think it was crown rot--they didn't smell either.

Looking in one of my orchid books, it looked a lot more like a bacterial brown spot or some fungal leaf-spot disease. It took about 4 months for this stuff to spread. It was sure an ugly sight!

Now I keep new purchases separate from existing plants for about a month. The existing orchids are in the master bath and the new ones thrive in a south window. There is a big covered porch just outside that window that keeps the sun out for most of the day. They seem to be enjoying it!

I think those bamboo plant stands will help with airflow through the collection.
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BigBill
Feb 16, 2019 8:21 AM CST
Well I didn't realize that the plant had suffered like that! Oh well. It happens to the best of us.

In my nine years in Florida I ran two oscillating fans in my lanai 24/7 from March 1st through November 1st. I wrapped plastic around the controls. They were under my overhang and kept the air moving. My incidences Of black rot dropped over 90%.
The fans are with me in Michigan. Less than $15.00 each!
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tarev
Feb 16, 2019 1:16 PM CST
Welcome! Arlene.
Name: Arlene
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florange
Feb 16, 2019 1:52 PM CST
Thanks, Tarev!

Bill, as you know, people in Florida have fans everywhere! We have a big one in the master bath and an even bigger one on the lani. In this place, orchid leaves bounce in the breeze, even indoors!
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BigBill
Feb 16, 2019 1:59 PM CST
Well being a Yankee from NY, I had no idea of just how intense that sun was! Man, both me and my orchids fried that first summer and on into the winter. No, it is not winter. How about the slightly cooler dry time of year? Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Arlene
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florange
Feb 16, 2019 2:36 PM CST
I just want to add that I've moved into Zygos (and their relatives) and oncidiums because I want the plants to look beautiful when they are not in bloom. They are on display 100% of the time and good foliage is a plus. Additionally, they have fairly long bloom cycle compared to catts.

It's interesting to go to shows with my friend. I've gotten her into this and it's way outside her comfort zone. She is ok with phals but probably doesn't give them enough light to bloom to the best of their ability. But they do bloom. I've told her I do not want to transfer my biases to her, but she said she depends on me to help her make decisions. It's the start of a learning process for her, but she has limited focus and time for plants, instead likes to socialize 4-5 nights of the week. It's a hoot when we are together! I focus on plants--whether it is orchids or the veggies I grow from seed or the daylilies that I treasure. To each their own!!! Hurray! Hurray!
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DaisyI
Feb 16, 2019 11:03 PM CST
Florange, Welcome! Although I did notice you have been 'lurking' for 9 years! Hilarious!

I have been told Psychopsis hold their bloom stocks for up to 15 years! The cool part is they add a new one every year or so. Mine has 5 stalks now but has only bloomed all together once.
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Name: Arlene
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florange
Feb 17, 2019 7:39 AM CST
Cool! Sounds like it does it's own thing!

The three leaves on my Psychopsis have grown quite a bit--I think it likes it's location near a window. I just bought it on a lark because it was so unique. Other people say wierd or strange. It's different all right!
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Feb 17, 2019 7:59 AM CST
I agree, other people ARE weird and strange!! Group hug Thumbs up
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Feb 17, 2019 8:30 AM CST

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Yup! Smiling
I call them the Overseer, as the beautiful blooms are carried high above other blooms on the bench.
"he is looking at me"
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Name: Alice
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ardesia
Feb 17, 2019 8:52 AM CST
He looks like a tiny construction worker with a yellow helmet.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Feb 17, 2019 8:56 AM CST

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Hmm, that works too!
Name: Arlene
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florange
Feb 17, 2019 9:18 AM CST
You are right! It does look like a construction worker!

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