Plant ID forum: Need help identifying this plant

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Krdrake20
Feb 17, 2019 9:27 PM CST
Someone sent this for my fathers memorial service and I need help identifying it please and thank you

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 17, 2019 9:40 PM CST
@Krdrake20, Welcome to National Gardening Association.
I am sorry to hear of your fathers passing.
What a lovely plant to have in memory of your father. It looks to be one of the Dracaena. https://garden.org/plants/sear...

I hope this was helpful.

Lynn
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Iochroma
Feb 18, 2019 12:41 AM CST
Dracaena deremensis 'Warneckii'
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Calif_Sue
Feb 18, 2019 12:57 AM CST

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Striped Dracaena (Dracaena fragrans 'Warneckii')
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Iochroma
Feb 19, 2019 8:45 AM CST
It's a form of deremensis, not fragrans.
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Calif_Sue
Feb 19, 2019 10:02 AM CST

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Dracaena deremensis is now a synonym.
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
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Iochroma
Feb 19, 2019 2:59 PM CST
Nope. If you knew these two plants you would know that their flowers are not at all the same; further, the latest molecular genetic works show quite some distance between the two species.
https://www.nepjol.info/index....
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Australis
Feb 19, 2019 6:04 PM CST

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Iochroma said:Nope. If you knew these two plants you would know that their flowers are not at all the same; further, the latest molecular genetic works show quite some distance between the two species.
https://www.nepjol.info/index....


The Catalogue of Life gets its data from KEW's World Checklist of Selected Plants in this case (last major update was last 2017). The paper you cited is from 2010; it looks like the KEW WCSP did separate them in the 2011 revision, but they are back together in the latest revision.
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Iochroma
Feb 20, 2019 2:56 PM CST
Again, if you knew the two species, you would understand that they are not the same.
D. deremensis is from East Africa; D. fragrans is from West Africa. Neither is found in the Congo basin. They are literally a continent apart. Molecular genetics is the new gold standard, but in this case flower morphology is also a significant indicator that these are not one species, but two. Websites are not the arbiter of botany...
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Australis
Feb 20, 2019 4:26 PM CST

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Sorry @Iochroma, but the current taxonomical assessment is that they are the same species. I recommend you submit a case to KEW (the taxonomical authority in this case) or at least ask them why the two have been merged again.

By the way, just because they are on opposite sides of the continent doesn't mean they're not the same species. Lilium martagon and its variety Lily (Lilium martagon var. pilosiusculum) are spread across Europe to Eastern Asia. Flower morphology also does not guarantee they aren't the same species.
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Iochroma
Feb 20, 2019 6:26 PM CST
Again, it is clear you do not know the two species.
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Australis
Feb 20, 2019 6:41 PM CST

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My sincere apologies to @Krdrake20 for hijacking your thread at this time. Please feel free to mark it as "identified" if you are happy with the conclusion.

@Iochroma, if you would like to debate taxonomy and our database conventions further, please feel free to treemail me. I will not be discussing it further in this thread.
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