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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 30, 2012 2:19 PM CST
Could we have an option to choose leave color when doing a search in the coleus part of the database?
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
May 31, 2012 9:50 AM CST

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The Coleus database currently has no custom databox fields but we can surely add them. Leaf Color is easily done. Do you want it to be just a text field that you can type into, or a series of checkboxes? If the latter, just let me know what choices you want and I'll make it happen.

An alternative is we can add "Leaf Color" to the primary fields that affect all plants...
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 31, 2012 4:15 PM CST
Checkboxes, so a search can be done for leave color. Color of the leaves is what coleus are know for.
I would love to be able to do a search for say 'Orange leaves'.
There are so many colors.
Main Leaf color:
Orange
Burgundy
Pink
Red
Chartreuse
Green
Purple

I'm really not sure how it should be set up for color. Maybe the coleus experts can tell us what is needed?
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
May 31, 2012 7:53 PM CST

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Coleus experts: please weigh in!

We can use your list, plus "Other" with a magic text field...
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 31, 2012 8:36 PM CST

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I'm not a coleus expert, but I am a pedantic nitpicker. Please correct the spelling of "leave" (leaf) and "burgandy" (burgundy) before this list is added to the database. Green Grin!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 31, 2012 8:56 PM CST
*Blush*
Done. Rolling on the floor laughing Group hug
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 31, 2012 9:21 PM CST

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Thank you for indulging me, sweet Lynn. Lovey dubby
Name: Monica
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krancmm
May 31, 2012 9:30 PM CST
Maybe you could get some ideas from this website I ran across; there's a photo search (only 1115 pix for the 1433 cultivars listed Hilarious! ) by color and/or leaf shape. http://www.coleusfinder.org/pictures.php

For what it's worth, leaf info would be useful in the general info area as well. I grow many plants as much (or more) for the foliage than the flowers.
Monica
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 31, 2012 9:40 PM CST
Search on:
Leaf color
Leaf size
Sun or shade.
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kqcrna
Jun 1, 2012 7:25 AM CST
another good option for individual cultivars would be sun tolerant. in my mind that's different from sun requirement. almost all plants require a little sun, but only certain coleus tolerate full, hot, all day sun

karen
Name: Monica
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krancmm
Jun 1, 2012 8:33 AM CST
"They" have done it again: Coleus is now Plectranthus scutellarioides according to The Plant List.org or Plectranthus amboinicus according to ITIS - Take your pick.

No Coleus expert either...but here's a list of possible specialty fields as a starting point for discussion:

Possible Coleus Specialty Fields

Color Effect checkbox:
Red
Pink
Burgundy
Purple
"Black"
Green
Yellow
Gold
Chartreuse
Orange
Coral
Cream

Leaf Shape checkbox:
Ovate (typical)
Lance
Round
Duck Foot (lobed)
Ferny (deeply lobed)

Leaf Effect checkbox:
Smooth
Puckered
Frilled

Variegation checkbox:
None
Bi-Color
-Edge Band
-Speckled
-Mottled
-Center Flare
Multi-Color
-Distinct
-Speckled
-Mottled
-Flared

Leaf Size checkbox:
Tiny (<¾")
Small (¾"-1½")
Average (1½"-3")
Large (3"-4")
Very Large (4"-6")
Huge (>6")

Habit checkbox:
Upright
Mound
Trailing

Sun Tolerance
None
Filtered/Shifting
Full Morning
Full Day (note: saw none listed for full day intense sun)
Monica
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 1, 2012 10:43 AM CST
Hurray! Hurray! Monica you are awesome. Group hug
Name: Monica
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krancmm
Jun 1, 2012 11:00 AM CST
Thanks Lynn *Blush*

Who is the lucky person that changes all the Solenostemon to Plectranthus, and adds Solenostemon as a synonym? Is that a Dave all in one-fell-swoop possibility?
Monica
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jun 1, 2012 11:02 AM CST

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That would be me, but does the species change also?
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dave
Jun 1, 2012 11:10 AM CST

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Sorry, that was a really bad question I just asked. Let me ask it this way:

Proposal is put forward to:

1) Update all plants to set the genus to 'Plectranthus' (and leave the species as 'scutellarioides') where the genus is 'Solenostemon' and the species is 'scutellarioides'.

2) Of the plants that were updated, then add two synonyms to each of those plants:

Plectranthus amboinicus
and
Solenostemon scutellarioides

Does this look right?
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Name: Monica
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krancmm
Jun 1, 2012 11:26 AM CST
dave said:That would be me, but does the species change also?


Depends on whether you want to go with ITIS or ThePlantList.org. ThePlantList keeps the current species with reference to the World Checklist of Selected Families, but doesn't give a "last updated" date. ITIS is citing a 2011 "Lamiales of North America" that changes the species to amboinicus.

In short, I dunno Shrug!
Monica
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jun 1, 2012 11:43 AM CST

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Look above your most recent post for my latest proposal.
Name: Monica
Texas Gulf Coast (Zone 9b)
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krancmm
Jun 1, 2012 12:04 PM CST
dave said:Sorry, that was a really bad question I just asked. Let me ask it this way:

Proposal is put forward to:

1) Update all plants to set the genus to 'Plectranthus' (and leave the species as 'scutellarioides') where the genus is 'Solenostemon' and the species is 'scutellarioides'.

2) Of the plants that were updated, then add two synonyms to each of those plants:

Plectranthus amboinicus
and
Solenostemon scutellarioides

Does this look right?


Misread ITIS. Sorry.

1. YES
2. Only 1 synonym - Solenostemon scutellariodes

Monica
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jun 1, 2012 12:12 PM CST

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So the name Plectranthus amboinicus is to be completely left out then, yes?
Name: Monica
Texas Gulf Coast (Zone 9b)
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krancmm
Jun 1, 2012 12:59 PM CST
Correct.
Monica

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