Irises forum: Really weird place on Iris where flower decided to locate itself and bloom!

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meddjay
Apr 10, 2019 6:08 PM CST

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The blossom is wedged in at the base between two leaves. It never had a stalk. I really doubt it will be able to open up much more than this. I have never seen this before, has anyone else ever seen a bloom on an iris do something like this? Weird huh?

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creativeclover
Apr 10, 2019 6:11 PM CST
I don't recall ever seeing an iris bloom that way. Lets see what others have to say. Also, welcome meddjay. Welcome!
Name: daphne
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shizen
Apr 10, 2019 7:03 PM CST
meddjay, lots of my first timers bloom way at the base of the leaves. this also happens when our winters have fluctuating temperatures; for us the cold is in the mid 30's then the daytime highs could jump to the mid 70's then swing again from day-to-day. this also causes ' pineappling' whereby the leaves get crinkly or the iris flower stem does an 's' curve wonky growth, and then sometimes the blossom is hidden deep in the foliage.

usually, the plant settles down, but i've still had others that are more (i'm guessing) susceptible to flutuating temperatures and weather change. Shrug! i'm not sure, perhaps there will be others to weigh-in on the causes.?
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Australis
Apr 10, 2019 7:32 PM CST

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I've had this happen with a NOID the first season after moving it (it went from my aunt's garden to a planter box at my home).
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evelyninthegarden
Apr 10, 2019 8:02 PM CST
That happened to some of my irises last year after a freeze and snow following a spring warm-up.

Blooming down in the foliage on some, leaves stuck in place, never to continue growing...and also some pineappling.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
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AndreaD
Apr 10, 2019 10:26 PM CST
That has happened to me frequently over the years. Not sure why. It certainly is not unusual!
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crowrita1
Apr 11, 2019 5:15 AM CST
I've seen it, usually on plants that have been "stressed" i.e,, moved at the wrong time, recovering from n "injury"....something like that.
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UndyingLight
Apr 11, 2019 8:50 AM CST
Certainly would be unique to see that in my garden. Welcome to the iris forum, by the way! Welcome!
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Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Apr 11, 2019 12:04 PM CST
crowrita1 said:I've seen it, usually on plants that have been "stressed" i.e,, moved at the wrong time, recovering from n "injury"....something like that.


Arlyn ~ I guess that my irises were quite stressed last year. We were having a nice spring warmup during March, then snow and frost in April.

For some reason, this doesn't seem to be unusual, as I have looked at my past years photos, and most of them have snow in April. Sometimes the leaves are already out too. Some years the snow is light and brief, and other years it is heavier...I am wondering if it will skip this year! Crossing Fingers!

Last year was rather dry, but this year we have had plenty of rain and snow since November. I have given up trying to predict the weather! nodding
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
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meddjay
Apr 11, 2019 5:20 PM CST
Hey thanks for all the comments about my weird iris bloom. I live in Phoenix so the temp is very mild in the winter although it will get down to freezing sometimes but usually only for a night or two. There were no big temp fluctuations over winter, but now that it is spring it will be like 88/89 degrees for a couple of days, and then go back down to the low 70's for a week, and then back up to almost 90 again. We did get a lot of rain this winter but that was at least a month and a half ago. There was no stress on the plants other than some were just acquired in December, I waited until it warmed up and then put them in pots and a few months later now they are blooming. This is the first year I have gotten any to bloom so I will even take one that is stuck in the foliage ! And wouldn't you know the only ones blooming are all either purple or white. I had written a post on that a few weeks ago as well since I thought there might have been a mix up with what I bought since I had not of bought any that were either all purple or all white. Now I had dug up some iris a few years ago that I had no idea what color they would be but that was only two plants, not the four or five that were blooming with either all white, or all purple blossoms. At the time I said that there was one getting ready to bloom I was hoping was a different color, well this was it! It was a different color alright, just too bad I couldn't see it in all of its glory! As the weeks are passing some of the other ones have been blooming also. Here is a pic of one, so I ended up with more than just either all purple or all white after all !
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Another question if I may? When I was trying to identify the one iris with the orange beard, I thought I had found the name of it (flying down to rio OR hysteria) until I realized it has two beards? One orange and one purple? Forgive me if that is an ignorant observation and maybe it is called something else or is a common trait but I didn't find a two bearded iris in the data base at all to compare it with. So comments on that would be appreciated as well.

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Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Apr 11, 2019 10:06 PM CST
Orange beard, purple horns.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
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AndreaD
Apr 11, 2019 10:12 PM CST
evelyninthegarden said:Orange beard, purple horns.


That's a very unusual combination - it should make identifying the iris easier. Look under "space age" irises. They are the ones that have been hybridizers to have elaborate beards.
Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Apr 11, 2019 10:24 PM CST
In one picture, the beard looks dark. But in the other picture, the beards are orange with a purple horn. Do they differ from flower to flower?
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
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IrisLilli
Apr 24, 2019 11:58 AM CST
That first one looks like a Burseen to me...











@Lestv - what do you think?
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Lestv
Apr 24, 2019 2:12 PM CST
Your iris has a two colored beard (not too uncommon) that is orange at the throat and purple on the end, along with a short purple horn.

It very well may be a Burseen, but Tom Burseen created many many many irises with the orange and purple beards and horns. Colorwise it is definitely not Stolen Identity, Caribbean Cruise, Gordan Rules or Lass with Class. It IS in the color range for Awesome Alex, but he has a couple others that are very similar to Alex. The only way to tell for sure is to get a rhizome of Awesome Alex and grow them side by side.
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IrisLilli
Apr 25, 2019 12:24 PM CST
Thank You! Leslie! ! I'm not a Burseen specialist, but I do like his style! Thumbs up
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