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Apr 13, 2019 9:27 AM CST
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Northern MO (Zone 6a)
It's too late in the season for bareroots, but JP has a rose I want as a 2-quart own root. I got 'Enchanted Evening' last year as a grafted plant, but it hasn't leafed out yet after overwintering in my garage. All my other roses are, including the grafted 'Malvern Hills' (presumably on 'Huey' too), so I'm getting worried. Last year there was some awful news that RRD had been found in Weeks growing fields - turns out they'd shipped infected material for research purposes and somehow it got planted out in the commercial fields, and had been there for 2-3 YEARS.

I did order an older Weeks rose this year - 'Celestial Night' from Northland (so it's an own-root plant) that was introduced in 2017. It's a risk, yes, but my thinking is if a rose has RRD it isn't going to survive over a typical z6 or colder winter, especially if it's a new plant.

I don't know how JP grows/acquires their roses - own roots may come from a different state with how the big companies operate today. Is this no more risky than ordering from another vendor who's offering 'Celestial Night' (Northland and Heirloom both are) or is JP a higher risk?
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Apr 13, 2019 10:28 AM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
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@ac91z6: If it's any comfort to you, my Enchanted Evening is always always always the very last of my rises to leaf out. Why that is, I have no clue, unless it's a genetic trait.
Apr 13, 2019 11:51 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
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JP gets a thumbs down from me.
Apr 13, 2019 1:15 PM CST
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
JP also gets a thumbs down from me. Terrible customer service (no response back from them when they sent me a dead hydrangea plant a couple of years ago).
Apr 13, 2019 2:14 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
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Another thumbs down. Over a period of a few years I ordered eight own-root roses from J&P before giving up in disgust because only one survived.

It was once a great company. From 1985 to 2006 I ordered every new rose it offered each year, plus the four "judging panel" roses whenever they were offered. Then the company was taken over by others and it never regained its past reliability.
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