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East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 24, 2019 6:47 PM CST
Hello! Longtime lurker.

I have only been growing roses for a year but already love them so much and they bring me so much joy. But this horribly wet spring has been very discouraging and I've already lost a couple of plants Sad I battled spider mites on some tender new 1 gallon own roots I kept too sheltered through the winter and they're in ICU now, lol. die back/canker? is affecting some of my plants, and now black spot. I'm in a new, more humid growing zone and am so discouraged.


Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Apr 24, 2019 7:00 PM CST
Welcome, Bethadilly! It's great that you are contributing to the rose forum. It sounds as if you have been struggling with some of the plagues that many of us experience. Misery loves company and all that.
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Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Apr 24, 2019 7:06 PM CST
Hello Bethadilly, and welcome to the forum. I hope you post some photos of your roses when they bloom because we all love to see what others are growing. Lola.
East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 24, 2019 7:18 PM CST
Thank you all! I joined so I could talk to other rose people and not feel as bad about losing some plants. 😄I don't know any rose gardeners in person.

Name: Ken Wilkinson
N.E. GA. (Cornelia) (Zone 7b)
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KenNEGA
Apr 24, 2019 7:48 PM CST
Welcome. Just think. You're just getting started.
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Apr 24, 2019 8:27 PM CST
Hi Bethadilly! Welcome to the group. If you can post some pictures of your problems maybe we can help!
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Apr 24, 2019 8:29 PM CST

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Welcome to the forum, Bethadilly. Glad you're joining the rest of us rose lovers.
East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 24, 2019 9:15 PM CST
seilMI said:Hi Bethadilly! Welcome to the group. If you can post some pictures of your problems maybe we can help!


I definitely will do that as soon as I can figure out how to post a picture from mobile.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Apr 25, 2019 1:11 AM CST
Welcome to the group Bethadilly - Group hug

So do you know what to do ... or do you need some advice?
Trust me...we've all lost roses nodding Hang in there.
East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 25, 2019 6:55 AM CST
Canadian_Rose said:Welcome to the group Bethadilly - Group hug

So do you know what to do ... or do you need some advice?
Trust me...we've all lost roses nodding Hang in there.


I have mulched and sprayed everyone with a fungicide. And they've been fed regularly.

For my roses with die back I've been pruning below the dieback and then applying fungicide where I've cut. Also sanitizing my pruners after every cut.

For my little 1 gallons still in their pots that are struggling with spider mites, I have been gently rinsing them with water every few days and that seems to be helping shop the mites away, as some are trying to put on new growth and are looking happier.l. But a couple were almost completely defoliated and are still shaken. Those guys are trying to put on new growth too but at some of those little bud growth places it's black at their new growth buds. Sad

I hate how it's my favorites that are struggling. Julia Child, Koko Loko & Twilight Zones. All ones I bought specifically because I love them.



Name: Anne Peck
Indiana (Zone 5b)
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queenanne42
Apr 25, 2019 8:34 AM CST
You will get excellent advice here. You might be over doing it with the chemicals, at least to me. But I am not as experienced as others here. I am sure we can send you in the right direction. Welcome!
Long Island, New York, USA (Zone 7a)
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Ray_Gun
Apr 25, 2019 10:21 AM CST
Hi and welcome! Welcome! You'll definitely find loads of advice on this forum and site in general. I just started with roses last year and have found the help here invaluable. I didn't know any rose gardeners in real life either Big Grin I usually let the pros chime in and learn from others' questions so don't be shy to ask anything you're unsure about. Curious what zone you're gardening in? Also, do post some pics when you can that will help a lot.
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vaporvac
Apr 25, 2019 11:25 AM CST
Hi and welcome. I'm also new to this site and have only been growing roses extensively for a short while. Could you let us know where you live and your zone and perhaps post a picture of those black buds. It could be midge and it's best to nip that in the bud, so to speak, because they spread throughout all your roses. It could be other things such as a cold spell after they start to leaf out, but a picture might help with IDing the problem.
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Apr 25, 2019 12:01 PM CST
Yes, I think you're overdoing it with the chemicals too. For the die back...pruning right below the black canes may not be the best thing. You need to prune close to a leaf bud node (outward facing) or an axil opening (Axil – the angle on the upper side where the leaf and stem join). Spraying your pruners with fungicide is not necessary. But using some sort of bleach is...I use Lysol wet wipes. Black at the tips may be from mites (not spider mites). Cut that off and try to put something sticky (preferably blue or yellow) (upside down cup with vaseline on it for example) near it and that will trap the mites. Keep up the misting for the spider mites. An insecticide won't work on them...as they're not insects...but arachnids

Hope that helps. Please post pictures is you're worried, that can be helpful. Smiling
East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 25, 2019 12:14 PM CST
My Julia Child recovering from BS.
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Koko Loko 1. Still shaky after severe BS and then having to have a couple canes cut back due to black dieoff
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Koko Loko 2. Had severe BS + die back on the 2 main canes. The cane that is blooming is a new one sent up this spring.
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Twilight Zone starting to put on new growth and get going again after spider mites.
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Poor little Julia Child. She was completely defoliated due to the spider mite damage. But is trying hard to come back on this cane. There was a cane on the left I had to cut back due it starting to turn black.
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My other Julia Child is putting on new growth and looking good after the mite attack. Spider mites were a new to me pest so I let them sneak up on me. Sad Never again tho.
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Also little grocery store rose that I rescued that seems like it'll never look better despite being well watered, fed and pampered. 😬
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East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 25, 2019 12:22 PM CST
Canadian_Rose said:Yes, I think you're overdoing it with the chemicals too. For the die back...pruning right below the black canes may not be the best thing. You need to prune close to a leaf bud node (outward facing) or an axil opening (Axil – the angle on the upper side where the leaf and stem join). Spraying your pruners with fungicide is not necessary. But using some sort of bleach is...I use Lysol wet wipes. Black at the tips may be from mites (not spider mites). Cut that off and try to put something sticky (preferably blue or yellow) (upside down cup with vaseline on it for example) near it and that will trap the mites. Keep up the misting for the spider mites. An insecticide won't work on them...as they're not insects...but arachnids

Hope that helps. Please post pictures is you're worried, that can be helpful. Smiling


It does! Thank you. I come from a vegetable/General flower background and don't know much about roses yet. My fungicide is an organic copper fungicide that was recommended by a master gardener.

For my bigger plants I was able to cut down to a healthy bud node most of the time but there were a few times on my littlest plants and on a couple bigger plants where the black was showing up closer to the base where I couldn't find a really good spot to cut. Those I ended up cutting shorter, thinking I could try to stop it.

Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Cat Lover Keeper of Poultry Keeps Horses I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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porkpal
Apr 25, 2019 12:23 PM CST
Most of your roses seem to have recovered quite well. They look small but healthy.
Porkpal
Long Island, New York, USA (Zone 7a)
Region: New York Roses
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Ray_Gun
Apr 25, 2019 12:46 PM CST
I agree it looks like they're bouncing back. They have a reputation for being finicky and while that's not necessarily untrue, due I believe in most part to selective breeding, they're much hardier plants then I for one gave them credit for. Looks like you're on the road to recovery! Hurray!
East Texas (Zone 8b)
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Bethadilly
Apr 25, 2019 1:32 PM CST
Oh good I'm so glad. Thank You!

Here are some of my others that are doing well.



Watercolor Home Run
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Rainbow Knockout
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Plum Perfect
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Miracle on the Hudson
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The knockouts (in addition to the Raimbow we have a Sunny, Double Pink & Original) got my husband & I started on roses, now we are hooked on roses lol.

Duchess de Brabant. One I really adore and want more of.
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Another Koko Loko
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Iceberg
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Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Apr 25, 2019 2:44 PM CST
Welcome Beth!

I think you are doing great with your roses. Looks like the ones that have had some problems are starting to recover and the rest look great! I love your choices of colors and plants. Hope to see you on here often.

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