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Name: Moondog
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May 2, 2019 1:33 PM CST
I'm hoping someone here can tell me what this one is!
This rose was here when Brenda and I moved here 6 years ago.
It has no aroma, but it puts out LOTS of blooms, regularly.
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Name: Moondog
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May 2, 2019 1:38 PM CST
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What is THIS Rose, Please?
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Name: Zuzu
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May 2, 2019 2:47 PM CST

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At your service, Sir. I tip my hat to you.
Name: Moondog
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May 2, 2019 2:54 PM CST
Angel Lovey dubby Thank You!
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Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
May 2, 2019 3:46 PM CST
Looks like Queen Elizabeth to me. I grow four of them.
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porkpal
May 2, 2019 5:16 PM CST
I always guess Queen Elizabeth for an older large pink rose. She was very popular and still is.
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Name: seil
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May 2, 2019 5:28 PM CST
Yeah, I'm thinking Queen Elizabeth too. The other one I thought of was Memorial Day but yours is a warmer pink and doesn't have the scalloped edge petals of Memorial Day.
Name: Moondog
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May 2, 2019 5:43 PM CST
Y'all are awesome!

Thanks:

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Name: Zuzu
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May 2, 2019 5:48 PM CST

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Queen Elizabeth, I agree. It's clearly a grandiflora by the way the blooms are carried.
Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
May 2, 2019 5:49 PM CST
'Queen Elizabeth' was the first "Grandiflora" rose - a term coined in 1954 to describe a new rose developed from a cross between hybrid tea and floribunda roses. Grandifloras tend to carry their flowers in clusters on top of tall stems. They are one of the taller modern roses, and typically have full sized "double" blooms but lack a strong fragrance. So not only do your blooms look exactly like Queen Elizabeth blossoms, but the structure of your plant is that of a grandiflora. (Queen Elizabeth also comes in a climbing form, and can grow straight up to the height of some bamboos, speaking from personal experience.)
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Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
May 2, 2019 5:49 PM CST
Just cross-posted with you, Zuzu.
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May 2, 2019 5:53 PM CST

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Even the non-climbing one can attain ridiculous heights if it isn't grafted. Queen Elizabeth is one of the few roses that are grafted to keep them small. I have one I grew from a rooted cutting and it is as tall as the Saucer Magnolia next to it.
Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
May 2, 2019 6:15 PM CST
I hadn't realized that!
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
May 2, 2019 6:36 PM CST
Moondoggie - you can grow roses!! Your roses are all fabulous!! What's your secret?? Thumbs up
Name: Moondog
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Moondog
May 3, 2019 5:40 AM CST
Canadian_Rose said:Moondoggie - you can grow roses!! Your roses are all fabulous!! What's your secret?? Thumbs up

Thanks, Carol
I have no secrets. Like I said when I got here, I'm just trying to NOT KILL what she (Brenda) had.
I miss her so bad and this is just part of what I have left, that somehow keeps her around.
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Aerith
May 3, 2019 11:24 AM CST
Zuzu, I've never known that roses could be grafted to keep they small. It's great to learn new thing here. I've wondering what are they except QE?
Name: Moondog
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Moondog
May 3, 2019 12:24 PM CST
When I trimmed this one on Feb 1st, it was well over 8' tall. I cut it back to about 3 1/2' maximum height. It has new growth exceeding 3' since then.
That's the way SHE always did it.
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Name: Carol
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Canadian_Rose
May 3, 2019 12:38 PM CST
Oh, Moondoggie....that's so touching. You're doing right by her...she must be very proud of you. The roses look fabulous!!
Name: Zuzu
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May 3, 2019 12:45 PM CST

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Gallica roses are often grafted to keep them in bounds, Aerith. I don't grow many gallicas because they don't bloom well in my zone unless I pour trays of ice cubes around them in winter. I do have a lovely grafted Cardinal de Richelieu that has stayed a manageable size. I once had an own-root one that sent suckers out in all directions and threatened to take over the world. I'm currently facing that problem with an own-root Charles de Mills and I wish I could find a grafted replacement for it.

As for the non-gallicas, I once read a list of the ones that are grafted to keep them within bounds, but Queen Elizabeth and Pearlie May were the only ones I had, so I promptly forgot the other names. Big Grin
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Aerith
May 3, 2019 3:16 PM CST
Thanks for your explanation, Zuzu. I don't have gallicas (yet), but now I'll be monitoring my roses which produce suckers easily like Rose de Rescht and Therese Bugnet because they are own-rooted.

So, in generally, roses that lack of vigour are good to be grafted right? I'm asking because I have a poor Little Grey Pearl has few (almost not) growth. I've tried fish emulsion, alfalfa, and some other organic stuff, but it seems all the efforts are nothing else but just keep it "alive". I hope I can find a grafted one and try it again. Sighing!

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