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KSPNW8
May 25, 2019 8:30 PM CST
Hi everyone,

I was at the Antique Rose Farm in Snohomish, WA today, and I saw a large mound of pink roses blooming in the field there. The bush was probably about 6 feet high, maybe 8-10 feet wide? I'm not exactly sure, and surely would have taken better notes and pictures if I had thought I would be asking you all about this rose. When I asked the proprietor of the farm about it (my companion wanted to buy one if they had propagated it) he guessed without looking that I was talking about "Apple Blossom" and said he was out of stock. She is on a waiting list. Anyway, I was intrigued, so I decided to search for Apple Blossom -- and found mostly smaller roses on Help Me Find. It occurred to me that this might be Applejack? Does it have really large blooms? There was also a white rose that looked almost identical, and the pink bush had one white bloom on it (making me think the white one may have been a sport of this massive pink one). Thoughts? Hand for scale. The next time I am there I will definitely ask about this rose again.

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
May 25, 2019 8:42 PM CST

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It looks like Applejack, but Applejack's blooms are only about 3 inches across.



SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
May 25, 2019 10:20 PM CST
I posted pics of my first Applejack Bloom on the other form. Let me see if I can find it. It does look like Applejack which is a large Bush here. It looks like I erase the picture but it could definitely be Applejack although my Bloom was much smaller.


Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
May 26, 2019 1:14 AM CST
Wow! Those are HUGE blooms!! For some reason, "Complicata" jumped into my brain. Then I googled it...and it looks like a good suggestion!

KSPNW8
May 26, 2019 3:22 PM CST
Thanks everyone! It DOES look like Applejack (and that sounds like "apple blossom" so it seems likely?) But those blooms were just so large -- I don't know. I hadn't thought about it being a Gallica, but that could be. I'm off to look at pictures of Complicata now.
Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
May 26, 2019 3:48 PM CST
My guess is 'Nevada' for the white, and 'Marguerite Hilling' for the pink (it's a sport of 'Nevada').

'Nevada'
https://www.helpmefind.com/ros...

'Marguerite Hilling'
https://www.helpmefind.com/ros...

:-)

~Christopher
Name: Virginia
Charleston, SC (Zone 8b)
Köppen climate classification Cfa
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scvirginia
May 27, 2019 11:19 AM CST
I agree with Christopher.

Virginia

KSPNW8
May 27, 2019 1:11 PM CST
Christopher and Virginia, thanks! I think this is Marguerite Hilling and Nevada. The pink plant actually did have a white flower on it (I should have taken a picture) and some of the images of Marguerite Hilling on HMF are also sporting back.

Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
May 27, 2019 2:22 PM CST
If you have any contact information for that nursery, I'd love to have it. No one seems to carry 'Marguerite Hilling' anymore, and it's something I'd like for the cemetery eventually. 'Nevada' is carried by High Country Roses, and I planted one this year.

:-)

~Christopher
Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
May 27, 2019 2:43 PM CST
I found them on Facebook, but I'm getting the impression they don't have a website, and probably don't ship. Hmmm.......

:-)

~Christopher
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KSPNW8
May 27, 2019 11:30 PM CST
They are not the most commerce-minded nursery -- fairly relaxed in their approach to selling roses, and are not selling online as far as I know. If it is not in commerce it ought to be. We should stay in touch about this. Maybe they will allow me to buy some cuttings, since they don't have the rose itself in stock.
Name: Virginia
Charleston, SC (Zone 8b)
Köppen climate classification Cfa
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scvirginia
May 29, 2019 11:16 PM CST
I know that he reported that 'Apple Blossom' was out of stock, but did you also conform that that was 'Marguerite Hilling' and she was also out of stock? If so, it would be great if you could get cuttings, or at least get on a waiting list.

It is a lovely rose, and would be worth a wait, IMO. Especially, if it is becoming rare in commerce- snag it while you can!

Virginia

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