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Jun 4, 2019 12:28 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Hello everyone. We are a younger couple 36 male and 35 female.. we have gotten into gardening with our two kids. Boy(6) and girl(3). We have several types of roses in our garden. And have recently just started to make a new flower bed of 4ft wide by 28ft long. That we are planning on filling with Rose's. My wife has a basic deep maroon hybrid tea that we made from seed. I used pollen from a dark dark red hybrid tea rose bought from lowes years ago. And pollinated it with a dark pink hybrid tea. And the seed that took turned out better than we could ever imagined. It's on its 3rd year now. And is almost 7 foot tall on its canes. And has roughly 700 blossoms on it at full bloom. And of course a repeating bloomer. We have named it the Lakyn Rose after our daughter. Pics below of it. I didnt get any of it at full first bloom this year. But you can see how big it is. The main canes on it are bigger around than a quarter.

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Some of our other roses. And we have few we just planted that havent bloomed yet. All of our Rose's are repeaters. We have white ones, two different yellows, 3 different pinks, reds, swirls of red and whites. Which I will be breeding with. White n red swirl with a bright neon orange ring of fire Rose's. Hopefully they make some beautiful offspring. But I have really gotten into Rose's lately and my wife and daughter love them. As well.

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Jun 4, 2019 12:36 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
We have taken several cutting to root for other places around our house. We recently planted several coral drift ground cover Rose's and got several climbers we are going to use on picket fencing and lattice board.




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Jun 4, 2019 3:23 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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It sounds like you have taken on a very ambitious project. I hope your early success is just a hint of what's to come!
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Jun 4, 2019 3:26 PM CST
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
Welcome! Welcome!
Hi, Seth and Sam - Your roses are wonderful! I can't believe you hybridized that wonderful red rose!! Well done!!! Thumbs up What zone are you in...and did it overwinter without protection?

My favorite rose is your red and white striped rose!!! Gorgeous!!!

Do you know the names of the roses? It's so much better when we know the names of the roses you present to us. So much more fun!

I can't wait to see what other beauties you hybridize!
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Jun 4, 2019 6:30 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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Seth, welcome to the Roses Forum! I enjoyed reading your post, and applaud your commitment and enthusiasm to rose horticulture. I'm especially impressed by the fact that you've made growing and caring for roses a family affair that involves your spouse and children.

One thing I'd like to point out is that the rose in the first few photos of your first post is not a Hybrid Tea; instead, it looks like a climbing rose. HT's typically have a single bloom on a long upright stem, as opposed to clusters of blooms on long arching canes. Still, it's a beautiful rose, and one to enjoy!

Edited to ask: Did you by chance grow this on its own roots and then graft it onto Dr. Huey rootstock? It looks a lot like the good doctor.
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Jun 4, 2019 11:13 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Mike said:Seth, welcome to the Roses Forum! I enjoyed reading your post, and applaud your commitment and enthusiasm to rose horticulture. I'm especially impressed by the fact that you've made growing and caring for roses a family affair that involves your spouse and children.

One thing I'd like to point out is that the rose in the first few photos of your first post is not a Hybrid Tea; instead, it looks like a climbing rose. HT's typically have a single bloom on a long upright stem, as opposed to clusters of blooms on long arching canes. Still, it's a beautiful rose, and one to enjoy!

Edited to ask: Did you by chance grow this on its own roots and then graft it onto Dr. Huey rootstock? It looks a lot like the good doctor.


We bought a rose from lowes years ago. When me and my wife first got together. We then bought a new house. Took cuttings of the rose Bush from our old house. And rooted it. Planted it at our new house. I then used the bright pink rose pollen onto it. And grew seeds from hips from it. Selected the best growing one that sprouted. And that's it. I do agree with the giant clusters. Bc it does have enormous clusters like a climber.
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Jun 4, 2019 11:23 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
I havent tried my hand at grafting yet. But plan on grafting several different colored Rose's to a single base. To see if I can get a rainbow bush. I also have several dormant proven bloomers and what says proven blooming climbers. Bought from a local nursery I'll be using too hopefully.
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Jun 4, 2019 11:52 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Mike said:Seth, welcome to the Roses Forum! I enjoyed reading your post, and applaud your commitment and enthusiasm to rose horticulture. I'm especially impressed by the fact that you've made growing and caring for roses a family affair that involves your spouse and children.

One thing I'd like to point out is that the rose in the first few photos of your first post is not a Hybrid Tea; instead, it looks like a climbing rose. HT's typically have a single bloom on a long upright stem, as opposed to clusters of blooms on long arching canes. Still, it's a beautiful rose, and one to enjoy!

Edited to ask: Did you by chance grow this on its own roots and then graft it onto Dr. Huey rootstock? It looks a lot like the good doctor.


The Rose's in the first few pics arent the one I'm talking about. Below is the rose bush from seed that we crossed and made.

EDIT: I just asked my wife. You are correct, one was a Dr. Huey Rose's that we crossed.. So you were correct.
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Jun 5, 2019 7:02 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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It certainly looks to be a healthy and happy rose!
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Jun 5, 2019 10:15 AM CST
Long Island, New York, USA (Zone 7a)
Region: New York Roses
Welcome weluvroses! Super interesting project you have on your hands and I look forward to seeing your progress. Welcome! Hurray!
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Jun 5, 2019 5:03 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
So after some more research on roses. And lots of hours of reading. My guess is the big rose bush the Dr. Huey rose. Even though I pollinated it. It may have self pollinated as well and the seed I selected to grow out and plant looks like one of the parents which was a Dr. Huey Rose.

And some pics extra pics got some more buds opening up. Really looking forward to the Yellow one opening up. It's a Sunny Dew miniature. But I've found planting in our soil mix and in ground. They dont stay small. My wife has an eye for pruning. She tops them and spreads them out. We also just planted a nice light pink Coral Drift ground cover rose. That has 5 really long main branches already in the 1gal pot. We planted it in the ground too. We took an old fruit stand box. And weaved it through. Into our double knock out rose bush as well.


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Jun 5, 2019 6:02 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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Lovely work you've done... yes, the designation of 'miniature' rose refers to the size of the flowers and leaves, but not the plant as a whole!
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Jun 5, 2019 9:00 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Mike said:Lovely work you've done... yes, the designation of 'miniature' rose refers to the size of the flowers and leaves, but not the plant as a whole!


Yeah that's what weve found out. We had another miniature at our old house. That we got from walmart of all places. It had 4 bloomed open flowers and two buds. We planted it straight into the ground. And in 2.5 years time it was almost 5 foot tall and 4 foot wide. Had tons n tons n tons of flowers. The only thing is the scent of the miniatures also seems to be small. Not very fragrant. But they sure are pretty.
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Jun 5, 2019 9:15 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
I know this is a Rose forum.. but I thought I'd post a pic of all of our flowers this year.
We have a Valentine Bleeding Heart that just got planted this late spring but has yet to bloom. Probably wont bloom until next year. We also have some Golden Weeping Willows that I've cloned and planted a few of. They grow extremely fast. Our mother tree was just under 3ft tall when we planted it. This is its 3rd spring in the ground. And is almost 20ft tall and 10ft wide. Its huge.
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Jun 5, 2019 9:31 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
That is an extremely Cheery looking Garden!
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Jun 5, 2019 9:40 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
vaporvac said:That is an extremely Cheery looking Garden!


Tyvm. We actually have planted 7 more since the last pics. I'm really looking forward to the end of summer. Once everything has been in the ground and taken hold well.
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Jun 6, 2019 10:49 AM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Took some new cuttings and ordered 6 new types of Roses from Roses unlimited, got a few climbers this time around. Gonna build a homemade garden trellis out of old pallets.

What's everybody's best bug defense? We have been using Garden Tech Sevin bc of Jap beetles. We have them horrible this year. And we are suppose to have the 17 year Cicadas this year. Last year was the 7 year type and they ate every single day lily we had. I didnt know they bothered flowers but apparently they do. They killed all of our day lilies. But we have leaf miners or whatever they're called. Eating holes in one rose bush. Leaving the skeleton like leaves behind. This sevin doesnt seem to affect them.


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Jun 6, 2019 11:51 AM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
Milky spore seems to be the best long term solution for JBs. I usually just carry around a jug with soapy water and knock them into it. The soap prevents them from floating and they drown.

Skeletonized leaves are probably the result of sawfly larvae aka rose slugs. They are NOT caterpillars so things meant to those will not work. they are small green little things that feed on the underside of the leaves. You can try to blow them off with a strong spray of water or squish them. If you have pots try to keep them on a hard surface and cover the soil with landscape fabric so they don't fall down and pupate.
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Jun 6, 2019 1:13 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 6b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
If you use a poison like Sevin, I recommend using it at dusk after bees and butterflies have left the area. Try to spray it on the leaves rather than the flowers. It it gets into the flowers it will poison the beneficial pollinating bees, butterflies, and hummingbirds who return the next day to consume nectar. Even if you just spray the leaves, it will still kill other beneficial insects, like ladybugs that are present, and pollinating leafcutter bees who return the next day.
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Jun 6, 2019 6:39 PM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
I will get rid of the sevin right now. As we have hummingbirds like crazy. We have a big tree behind our house that they apparently nest in. We have H.B. feeders all over our property. My wife loves them. And they are fly around our Roses too. And I dont want to harm them at all. Weve only used this sevin once. And that was at the beginning of spring. We wont use it again. Thanks for the input from both of you.

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