Roses forum: Identification Help??

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Name: Brittany Cameron
McConnells, South Carolina (Zone 8a)
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jjaysgirl13
Jun 7, 2019 2:13 PM CST
I have a tall rose bush at the end of my home that my mother-in-law planted when my husband was a child. He's now 31 yrs old and his mother passed in 2016. I would like to know the name of this plant and if I'm able to take a cutting and plant it elsewhere. Also need to know how far to cut it back when winter comes. My father-in-law used to cut it back yearly but since her passing he hasn't touched it.

I googled types of rose bushes and the flowers that mostly matched mine were dogwood and beach rose.

I brought it up in a previous post but I believe that people have just forgotten about it, which is fine. They believed it was a Dr. Huey. One lady didn't seem to sure about that so she wanted more information.
So I'm posting all the photos again and giving the information that was requested. The only question I couldn't answer was hips, I don't know what that means. If someone can explain that to me I might be able to answer.

-It's very tall
-Slight fragrant smell outside but if I bring them inside the smell is much stronger.
- Flower size I'd say ranges from small to medium
-Color is either pink or red
-Blooms in spring & summer (until mid- August)
-Stays pretty green thru out the winter months.
-Also if you place fencing around it the bush seems to somewhat climb, I have to train it tho.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
Jun 7, 2019 4:03 PM CST
If it blooms repeatedly and has a fairly strong fragrance, it is not Dr Huey. Hips are the seed capsules that develop after the blooms are spent. Some roses make large, decorative hips, others don't produce them at all. I hope folks will take notice and find a name for your rose.
Porkpal
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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LolaTasmania
Jun 7, 2019 4:16 PM CST
It does look like Dr Huey. Dr Huey is a rose they use for rootstock. They graft another rose onto it but if the grafted rose dies the rootstock will survive and send out canes from the base as yours has done. Dig down a little and see if the canes are coming out of the plant below the knobby graft. If they are below the graft then it is definitely the rootstock growing. Dr Huey is a lovely rose but can get out of hand if you leave it to it's own devices.

Hips are the fruit of the rose that forms once the flowers have been fertilised. They are round or egg-shaped and can be orange, yellow, or red. They are just as beautiful as the blooms in my opinion. Not all roses have hips so a photo of any hips can help identify a plant.

If you go to the top of this page and click Plant Database, then in 'search by name' write 'rosa Dr Huey' it will bring up a page full of information and photos for you to compare with your rose.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
Jun 7, 2019 5:42 PM CST
Brittany does not think it is Dr Huey. The fact that it blooms all summer and has moderate fragrance makes me tend to agree with her.
Porkpal
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 7, 2019 6:47 PM CST
It does look like Huey, but if it's remontant and fragrant, it's something else. This is going to take some research.
Name: Ken Wilkinson
N.E. GA. (Cornelia) (Zone 7b)
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KenNEGA
Jun 7, 2019 6:49 PM CST
Everything I see says Dr Huey. Dr Huey tends to bloom heavy with nice green foliage during the spring, early summer. Then spends it's energy on long, thin canes during the rest of the season. By Sept/Oct it will usually be without any foliage due to heavy black spot on the foliage. In zone 8, the canes will stay green all year. The summer foliage will be the key to helping identifying this rose for you.
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Jun 7, 2019 10:11 PM CST
This is only a guess on my part ...

Based on this photo in our database by Orsola



and other photos on the rose page

Rose (Rosa 'Cardinal Hume')

your rose may be 'Cardinal Hume'
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
Jun 8, 2019 6:47 AM CST
Hi Lyn! Welcome back; we haven't heard from you for a while.
Porkpal
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Jun 8, 2019 1:48 PM CST
Hi PP ...

Too much on my plate and a broken rib made me run away from the computer .... Whistling

The real heat hits next week, so I may drop in now and then until I finally get things under control.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Jun 8, 2019 6:17 PM CST
'Cardinal Hume' was introduced in Britain in 1982. I'm not sure how that jives with your husband's age.
Name: Brittany Cameron
McConnells, South Carolina (Zone 8a)
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jjaysgirl13
Jun 8, 2019 7:25 PM CST
Thank y'all for the help. I looked at the database and I don't believe it is a Dr. Huey. None of the pictures really match the blooms. And I have never really noticed hips on it before but I also have never really looked either. It still is a very beautiful bush.
Can anyone tell me how far I should cut it back this year? And when? I have never done it before and I don't want to do it wrong.
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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RoseBlush1
Jun 8, 2019 7:34 PM CST
You are right, Jeri ... I forgot to check the date of introduction ... D'Oh!
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
porkpal
Jun 8, 2019 9:03 PM CST
Most roses do not actually require being cut back. If it is too large and you want to shape it, the best time for repeat bloomers is early spring.
Porkpal
Name: Brittany Cameron
McConnells, South Carolina (Zone 8a)
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jjaysgirl13
Jun 8, 2019 9:46 PM CST
Thanks Porkpal. Everyone keeps telling me to cut them back cause they will come back better. I'm planning on redoing my fencing on that end cause the chickens jump on it and bend it. Right now the rose is climbing thru it. And I also have a fence wrapped around it to help it stand better or it just kinda falls to the ground. Is there an easier way to get it to stand up?

Oh and 1 more thing:
In your opinion is it better to prune in the morning or in the evening?

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