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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 9:21 AM CST
I gave this its name because it came up in the middle of a daylily clump I have had for over 10 years. It is a strange one. So it is bee created I did not mate it with the intent of developing a different daylily.

The buds start to open and it holds in a position of growing as a half open bud until it gets big enough to open. This process takes about 2 days.

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Day 3 it opens
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Day 4 still open I do not see much difference except it appears to be a little lighter in color.
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The buds stay open a average of 3 to 4 days before it closes. Depends on if it is cloudy/sunny. Cloudy it is open 4 days if it is sunny it closes in about 3 days.

It is extremely stiff bloom. The stem is also stiff almost a stem of a small tree. Perhaps because of the heavy bloom the stem has to be sturdy to hold the bloom. The blooms are about 7"

Nature is amazing.
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monalisa18
Jun 18, 2012 9:58 AM CST
Well well, now aint that just something. A daylily that is actually open more than a day!! I have some that take two days to open but once they look like your second day, that's it, they are goners. You just may have something. Have you tried setting a pod on it???
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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 10:02 AM CST
I would not have a clue how to set a pod and do not even know what that means. LOL. I am sorry. I do not have many daylilies, maybe about 20. I have never tried to breed them.

That was what confused me because of the beginning open time. I was breaking them off because I thought they were spent blooms. This year I watched it closer and realized it was the beginning and not the end.
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philljm
Jun 18, 2012 10:12 AM CST
That is very cool. Perhaps you should try to plant some of that clump in a different location this fall, you might be on to something - a daylily that lasts longer than a day would be wonderful ~Jan
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Natalie
Jun 18, 2012 10:29 AM CST
Hi Cinta, It's really beautiful, so it would be worth hanging on to just for that! And if it stays open more than a day, it's even better! Do you know the name of the one that it came up in the middle of?

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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 10:43 AM CST
Natalie, it is between Stella, and a double ditchlily.
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Natalie
Jun 18, 2012 10:50 AM CST
Is the double ditchlily Kwanza? If so, I better get busy making crosses between those two! I never planned on doing anything with either of them, but if this is the result, I'd be thrilled to get something close!
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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 11:17 AM CST
"Is the double ditchlily Kwanza?" Yes I am assuming that is what it is, it was given to me as a ditchlily.
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Natalie
Jun 18, 2012 12:22 PM CST
That's the only name that I know it by. Mine was given to me two years ago by the neighbors across the street. They had dug it up from their grandparents place when the grandparents passed away, and thought I needed some, since I had given them a ton of ditchlilies. I had no idea what it was when it bloomed, but I loved it! I then found out that it can be very invasive, so I had to move it out of my regular daylily beds to a more secluded spot where it could roam all it wanted. It has been very busy doing just that! If I can find my picture of it I'll post it here.
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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 12:48 PM CST
This is what my flower looks like. They lady sent it to me and just said she had ditchlily she was giving away.

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Looking at them it does look like the seeded lily is taking on some of the markings of the ditchlily. I just noticed that.
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Natalie
Jun 18, 2012 1:16 PM CST
That is the same one that I have, and I was told it was Kwanza when I was looking to put a name on it. It's really pretty! I'm glad you found a picture because I had given up! I'm sure it's considered a ditchlily, but the one that most people call ditchlily are single.

I do wonder if it's a cross between the two. Seems like someone said that this one doesn't set seed well, or at all (can't remember now), but I'm not sure about the pollen. I had a couple of Stella's this year that stayed open for more than a day, and one lasted almost 2 full days. It's worth looking into a little further! You should try hybridizing them and see what happens!
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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 1:24 PM CST
I will watch and see if it sets a seed pod this year. I have more bees than I would like. I have bee hives everywhere. So I am sure they will do the job if it is possible. I usually deadhead my daylilies if I have the time. I will watch and see what this does.
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Jun 18, 2012 1:30 PM CST
In more than 25 years of growing daylilies, I have only had one that reliably was open more than one day, Maymont Double. A friend grows Starbase Alpha (think that is the name...a Moldovan yellow). It takes days to open, and is possibly the thickest substance I have ever seen.

So cool! I doubt this was a seedling. More likely the woman gave you a fan of something accidentally dug with the ditch lily. Have you asked her if it looks familiar?
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Natalie
Jun 18, 2012 1:34 PM CST
I think it's a hybrid since she's had the clump for over 10 years, and this just came up. Or, did I read that wrong and it's been there all along? If this is something new, and hasn't been there since you got the clump, wouldn't it have to be a hybrid? I can't imagine a daylily that doesn't bloom for 10 years!
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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 2:02 PM CST
Natalie you are right. I was just getting ready to explain. It is not brought in from a trade. When I first started this planting around the mailbox I put the stella, ditchlily, Rose bush.

The only other way it came in was from a bird. It is possible that a bird dropped it from another yard. There is a lady down the street 20 houses away that has a large garden. Others around me are in to the cookie cutter, a couple of evergreen trees and lawns.
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Natalie
Jun 18, 2012 2:25 PM CST
I've never once seen a bird on any of my daylilies, so I would bet that it's a hybrid from your own daylilies. It's quite possible that the pollen came from daylilies elsewhere, since bugs and bees travel around collecting pollen, but I'd think that one of those two plants was the pod parent that produced the seed, especially since it came up in the middle of them. I'm guessing it was probably Stella, since when mine bloom, they almost always have bee pods on them, and I've heard that the other is super hard to get seeds to set, or maybe it is impossible because it's not fertile. I can't remember now!

I'm no expert though! It's certainly possible that it was dropped by a bird, but I think that it's unlikely that it happened that way.

Do you have other daylilies in another part of your yard? I know from seeing the many seedling pictures on here that the seedlings don't always look like their parents, but it would be fun to compare them and see if it can be figured out as to a possibility of who the actual parents are!

Either way, you've got a real beauty there! I sure hope one of my planned seedlings looks half as good!
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Jun 18, 2012 3:43 PM CST
Reason I think it cannot be a seed from ditch lily x Stella... Ditch lily is known as being pretty infertile. It increases by stoleniferous roots. Stella is very fertile, but usually has babies that look just like Stella.

I once thought I had a seedling come up in an aisle. We called it Aisleway Beauty as a joke. That is until I looked at a set of old bed maps, and realized it looked just like One More Heartache, which was planted 6" away a few years before. I took a bloom to OMH hybridizers and compared it...sure enough, it was identical. That was the only time I have thought I had a seed start up on its own. Does not normally happen. Guess when I dug OMH I must have dropped a bit of root, it got covered up, and grew.
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Cinta
Jun 18, 2012 5:07 PM CST
The reason I am pretty sure it is a seedling from something is I started gardening on the property for 30 years. When I purchased the house there was nothing around the mailbox except grass. I begun about 5 years later with a rose bush.

Then a couple of years later I added Stella and then the ditch. That was the planting for that area. The rest of the front yard being small had evergreen bushes and the house. In the back I had a few daylilies nothing special. This is not in a flower garden that would get small rooted pieces of other plants. I added a some small spring bulbs again because there was not much space so I planted hyacinth and allium.

In the back of the house are older common daylilies. None of the newer exotic daylilies. I will keep a look out.

Juli if you see a daylily that looks like it I would love to see if it has a name. The strange thing about it is its' blooming habit that made me notice. I will post a pic tomorrow day three.

I do know with gardening I have never said never. I realized the plants have surprised me every time. Rolling on the floor laughing
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Cinta
Jun 19, 2012 8:30 AM CST
Okay this is day 3 open bloom. I took a side view so you can see the development of my next bloom.

I noticed there are not as many blooming scapes as my other daylilies for the age of plant. There are only 4 blooming scapes. Maybe because the blooms last so long it cannot support putting out a lot of scapes.

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Cinta
Jun 20, 2012 7:11 AM CST
Day 4 this is it. It melted. Rolling on the floor laughing It looks like a melted blob of glue. It was 90 degrees yesterday and at 9 am it is 80 already today.

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