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Having given it more thought, I'm thinking that the cliff was more like 75 feet tall, but not a sheer cliff, it had sloping sides, so if you were careful, you could navigate it to the bottom (which I did) - but that was in the 1970s when I was young and fearless. I'm still considering the bird theory BUT there were also numerous patches or red sedum growing there too, among them, so …
Well, Oregon history seems to be part of my life force, having been born in a hospital literally a "stones throw" to the End of the Oregon Trail Monuments in Oregon city (2 concrete monuments with brass plaques and an interpretive center with 2 large covered wagons nearby.
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That 1st white rose: cv. "Popcorn" it may in fact be! I will try my best at close-ups in the future, but very hard for me with the camera I'm using. Just have to take a lot of pics and try to get lucky.
RED CASCADE is a positive ID owing to the plant marker I found with it.
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Today I called Heirloom Old Garden Roses in St. Paul, Oregon to ask how much their catalog was; my plan was to mail them a check. I talked to Courtney. She said that they no longer have a catalog in print form, it's online. I asked if they still carried RED CASCADE miniature rose. She said "Hold on, I'll check … " After about a minute she said "No we don't."
I told her about the plant marker that I found:
Heirloom Old Garden Roses
24062 Riverside Dr.
St. Paul, OR 97137
503-538-1576
RED CASCADE
hanging basket
She said "That was not one of our creations … "
She told me that some of the roses that they sell are created by other breeders. I told her "Well, I think I have a rarity!" She said "Yes, you probably do."
I spent most of the day clearing an ENORMOUS amount of plant material that had overrun my bed of miniature roses. The result:
1st pic - This rose was flowering at the top of very long canes, but as I cleared the plant material away, I was surprised to find a little tiny cane way down at the base with a cluster of flowers on it, completely hidden from view previously. The plant marker: R15
2nd pic - A view facing south of part of the row I cleared
3rd pic - A tiny remnant of of miniature rose bush next to a broken down lavender plant, long neglected. No marker could be found. The flower color is a little different than R15, pinker with whitish areas on the petals.
4th pic - A view of the row I cleared, facing north, showing the R15 rose flowering at the top of long canes. The color is clearly magenta, a single rose with yellow throat.
5th pic - Moving in a little closer from the previous pic
6th pic - Moving in closer and a little farther north, the rose pictured in the 4th pic is far left, and next are 2 very large bushes growing very close to each other. Both have white "zinnia-like" flowers
7th pic - Backtracking south again. A close-up of the R15 rose at the base of several very long canes.
8th pic - Close up of the rose in the 3rd pic, net to the broken down lavender plant. Blur and sun glare (sorry)
9th pic - Going north again to the last two very large buses growing very close to each other at the end of the row. I found a marker for this one: R19
10th pic - The next one at the very end of the row. I'm still clearing around it, so maybe I'll find a marker yet. This last two roses appear to be the same cultivar.
11th pic - Staking the large canes to separate the last two roses in the row.
12th pic - A view facing south - in the foreground is a bed of woolly lamb's ears just coin into bloom. At extreme left is a very old plant of Madder, the runners have crept underneath the sidewalk and the plant(s) have overrun the rose bed, and have continued their spread to the west, to overrun a bed of mints - until I put a stop to it today.
SIDE NOTE: Madder (Rubia tinctorum) - famous for yielding an INTENSE red dye (from the roots) which the British used for military uniforms in the Colonial Days of America (U.S.A), from which the term "Red Coats" arose.