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Jun 18, 2019 11:54 AM CST
I saw this photo online and my heart exploded!
Is a project like this possible for a newbie? Is this kind of coloring sustainable for the plants long-term or is it just for a pretty photo? Are some of these varieties difficult to find? I imagine the blues in particular are pretty unusual.
I tracked the source of the photo down and found it as part of an online class (I'm too new to share the link but will post it in comments if you're interested ), but $40 is kind of a lot for a whim, so I thought I'd pick your brains before making a decision. I've had a Jade plant for about 4 years and some other "easy" succulents for around 6 months, but I'm not sure I'd consider myself proficient.
So what do you think? Is this a crazy project to take on that will end up with me becoming an accidental succulent murderer?
Jun 18, 2019 12:16 PM CST
|I think that might be impossible for a pro, much less a newbie.
I see at least 20 plants in that photo. All of which have certain needs.
Yes, physically, it is feasible to shove 30 or so plants in one pot.
Caring for them, thats the hard part. Its impossible to do so(if not very very difficult)
Youre better off learning one or 2 plants at a time.
Genus by genus, species by species, youll find that its best to get acquainted slowly, to try and understand the plant to care for it properly.
Jun 18, 2019 12:24 PM CST
|Now to add up, ill list from what i see:
-euphorbia trigona rubra. A full sun, toxic, cactiform succulent, with a fast growing, shrub-treelike habit. Red color cultivar(need more sun).
- euphorbia tirucalli firesticks. A full sun relative of the first plant, has a bush to treelike habitat, toxic, and dangerous to prune. Needs less water than trigona.
- various echeveria cultivars. rosette leaf succulents from the americas. Need medium to strong sun, with moderate watering
- kalanchoe tomentosa. A hairy succulent coming from africa, very strong sun, little water.
- sempervivum. A easy rosette succulent , related to the previous 2, (crassulaceae), that may survive with little water, but can also tank large amounts of watering if hot enough. NEEDS a winter rest outside, Its very hardy.
-various types of sedum ,(also crassulaceae), including adolphii, firestorm and pachyphyllum. Care similar to echeveria, but maybe with less watering
-crassula muscosa. A thin succulent coming from africa with stems consiting of tightly packed leaves. I cant offer care advice on this, since ive not been successful at all with this one..(type genus of crassulaceae)
- pachyptum compactum. A succulent similar to echeveria and those sedum types i mentioned, only with thick glauscent leaves. A lot less water, and strong sun.
-an aeonium. Also a crassulla relative, makes shrubs or mounds of tightly leaved rosettes...
- i think i see pereromia graveolens( or a relative) in the blurry bit of the photo. Have not grown them, cant offer advice...
Jun 18, 2019 12:34 PM CST
|Yes, those plants look great but they won't look like that in another 6 months because they are hopelessly crowded. The arrangement does not take into account the future growth of the plants. It might work if there was one tenth the number of plants.
$40 might seem like a lot for a class to assemble this type of arrangement but you'll end up paying more than that for the plants to fill it. There's no need for a class if you're willing to educate yourself about the needs of the plants and how to handle them when you pot them up. Feel free to ask questions on this forum and you'll get some answers.
The colors are great and that's one area where succulents are rich with options. The blues are relatively common among succulents. Why not go for one or two plants in the arrangement that catch your eye, and get your hands on those, then spend a few months seeing how they grow and flower before you take any more steps toward a community pot.
For what it's worth, many of the best colors on those succulents are "stress" colors meaning they require direct (outdoor) sun to be their strongest. An indoor setup will yield rather unsatisfactory results if great color is what you're after.
Jun 18, 2019 5:17 PM CST
|It does look impressive, but to be honest, sooner or later, one will easily over run the other, so I do not really like jampacking a container like that. I think at most I have done 3 types in one container but I make sure they have similar growing needs.
There are some there that likes more light, and as already mentioned the colorful aspect is at times reaction to stress. Oftentimes from a combination of amount of light and cool temps.
But if you do want to explore growing them, do it indivudually first, to get to know their seasonal quirks, lighting and watering needs. Oftentimes, some people tend to dehydrate the succulents way too much growing them like desert cacti and exposing them to too much direct sun. Get to know the proper media and container to use.
It will be a nice learning experience for sure. Good luck!
Jun 18, 2019 6:55 PM CST
|If you want try out different cultivars of sempervivums, they come in a variety of colors, at times the most colorful show appears during the cold period. It will also like your location, it can stand snowy conditions, since it is an alpine succulent. Just be aware typically this plant lasts on the average 3 years, but it readily makes offsets or when it finally blooms you can collect seeds. But once it starts blooming it is the start of its dying phase since it is a monocarpic plant.|
Jun 20, 2019 10:19 AM CST
|I did pot up hens & chicks 4 years ago. It was an outside project.
The half-round wire basket is lined with coco mat, filled with a porous potting mix, packed tightly and what is the top planting area was capped with coco mat & wired securely. I flipped the pot over and secured hens randomly with wire "u" pins. The first year I watered weekly with a quick spray of the hose. From then on it has lived off Mother Nature's rain drops. Over the years I have plugged in other succulents to the mix. In winter the container is removed from the stand and placed in a protected spot in the perennial bed.
I've tried other non-hardy succulent mixes, but they must be brought in in winter.
"Things won are done, joy's soul lies in the doing." Shakespeare
Jun 21, 2019 9:02 AM CST
|This thread is great, everyone is debunking a picture you'd find on instagram or pinterest haha
The colors are lovely, but I'd agree with everyone, it'll be a longshot. A lot of direct sun, they'll start to grow like mad and over crowd each other.... Little sun, and a lot of them will end up turning green on their own, which green is good, but not for the aesthetic of the picture.
Also $40 is quite a bit for a class, I'd say exactly what Baja said, find what catches your eye, do some research and start from there! I'm in your place too, I only have limited experience, but watching certain succulents grow and behave will give you a general knowledge of how other succulents preform, but obviously do your research!! (and from multiple sources because I've almost killed a few plants by only having done research from Google.)
I hope you'll be satisfied with your selections in the future and enjoy caring for your own version of this one day 😁
Jun 21, 2019 10:00 AM CST
|This was my own experiment in Nov 2015 with a Haworthia cuspidata, Haworthia emelyae, Sedum rubrotinctum, and Echeveria Sleepy. Haworthia was still dormant at that time, since it was a terribly hot summer before. I just used an old pastry container, I like it that it was shallow and wide. Just to show you how fast some of the succulents will easily out run the others, and it helps to have a good space around for them to grow. Your choice if you intend to keep what you like together or let them grow individually. I chose later to move them to their individual containers, to let them thrive better and my new goal is to have a better specimen in my garden.
Feb 2016 - our winter rains and cooler conditions revived them quite well, started to plump up much better and grow faster.
I eventually had to repot them, since the pasty container did not last, started to break apart. Went back to repotting them individually, so now I have better specimen sizes.
Sedum rubrotinctum, quite easy to grow, so just I have them in various containers, much better this way since they multiply fast.
Echeveria Sleepy...definetely not sleepy Very active grower, so at times I just let it be, especially after it was moved to its own container, just letting it grow wildly, bloom and make offsets. Maybe one of these days I will do some cuttings, to control their overgrowth.
Good luck later! Experiments always nice, if it works for you, go for it. But if you find it is getting harder to maintain and making the plants suffer instead, repot promptly as needed.
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