Daylilies forum: Need Advice re the End of the Day

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Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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tx_flower_child
Jul 13, 2019 1:53 PM CST
For various reasons, mostly lack of space and lack of sun and benign neglect, I'm not much of a daylily grower. 4 or 5 years ago someone gave me a couple in a trade. (No memory of what she got in return.) I haven't gotten many blooms but when I do get a bloom what should I do with the 'stalk' when the bloom has shriveled up and died? Cut it down or let it be? Thanks for any advice.



Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 13, 2019 2:39 PM CST
Wait for the scape to die and turn brown, then when just a slight tug will cause the scape to release from the crown pull it free. Don't jerk hard to release it as it could damage the crown.
Name: tfc
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tx_flower_child
Jul 13, 2019 10:27 PM CST
Got it. Thanks!
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 14, 2019 6:39 AM CST
tx_flower_child,
Just in case you might want some more of the same daylilies you now grow. Check those scapes for proliferations (small new plants). If your scapes have proliferations the scape will stay green much longer. I pulled two dying scapes from 'Purple Rain Dance' yesterday (surprisingly they were easily removed from the crown, normally when the scapes have prolifs or pods they will be a streak of green down to the base, and it will take a hard pull to make it release). But these had been there so long that they easily pulled free. It was only after I took the scapes up to the shed to cut off the prolifs and plant them and I trimmed the leaves that I noticed a scape already forming. The scape will probably abort now, and I should have just cut it off, but I want to see just what does happen. Will the scape abort and let the prolif live, or will the scape and the prolif die? Will the scape live, will the prolif live? The point being that you can normally plant the prolifs and grow them into new plants that will be replicas of the original plant it was growing on.
'Purple Rain Dance': Prolifs planted with scape growing.
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Name: tfc
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tx_flower_child
Jul 14, 2019 12:10 PM CST
@Seedfork - Thanks, I think. Not being very familiar with the world of daylilies other than 'ooh they're pretty', I'm going to dwell on this for awhile.

I gather that no matter what, it's best to use the gentle tug method as opposed to cutting them off.

As I said, I started with maybe 2 or 3. A squirrel developed a fondness for one of them and we had an ongoing battle of plant it, dig it up, replant it for at least a year. I think it was more of a game rather than battle for the squirrel because it never did anything with the bulb after digging it up. So a winter or 2 goes by and I'm finally getting around to cleaning up my small perennial bed. Given lack of space, and lack of blooms, as well as no desire to continue the 'game', I had pretty much decided to dig up the daylilies. But much to my surprise, they had multiplied. A lot. And continue to. It seems as if they're multiplying daily. (I should take a picture so I'll have a date/time stamp.)

The daylilies are at the far end of the bed and don't get much water as my hose is just a little too short. They also don't get a lot of sun due to trees and a fence. Plus they rarely get fed due to neglect on my part. So, given all that, why do they continue to multiply? And could it be that they're not producing many blooms because they're spending more energy on expanding their reach? I'm probably just overthinking. (Sorry. Bad habit.)
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 14, 2019 12:42 PM CST
Daylilies love water, the difference in their performance with negligible water, normal water, and sufficient water is often amazing. Water is much more important than fertilizer, but that helps a lot also. If you want a daylily to live up to its potential,then sun, water, and fertilizer are pretty much the 3 main things. Daylilies do not actually have "bulbs", just roots and a crown on the bottom of the plant. Not being a daylily person so to speak, you may not be aware of bud counts and branching, and bloom size, plus patterns and colors. But those are the things that most daylily people try to bring out to the max in their plants. What is surprising to hear is that your plants are actually multiplying so rapidly. I remember when I was new to daylilies and thought one of my first plants might be setting a new record for multiplying, then I discovered what nut grass is.
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Name: tfc
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tx_flower_child
Jul 14, 2019 1:07 PM CST
Nut grass. That would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Yes, I do remember, now that you've mentioned it, about the roots and crown. It's been awhile. So aside from taking a picture, I'll try to see if I can find when I got the daylilies. I know the 'where' and the 'who' but not the 'when' and 'how many'.

I do know that I was mistaken about the name. Someone here ID'd it for me. Here's a picture taken on June 14th of one of this year's few blooms.

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Name: Diana
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ShakespearesGarden
Jul 14, 2019 2:22 PM CST
Hemerocallis Fulva "Kwanso" ... Commonly known as "ditch lily" as they grow everywhere and are naturalized in many places. They will continue to produce leaves, even in full shade, though the bloom is sparse. I have some growing under a mulberry tree. They don't get one ray of full sun, yet won't die off...
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Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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tx_flower_child
Jul 17, 2019 1:57 PM CST
Thanks. I haven't had a chance to take a picture of the 'bed' yet. (I really hate to go outside when it's 98F.)

I have been making a concerted effort to water more. I also need to cut back the bronze fennel that is going to seed and is so tall that it's one more thing that shades the daylilies.
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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tx_flower_child
Jul 18, 2019 9:41 AM CST
I snapped a couple pictures last night about 8:00. I wasn't able to get a complete picture with the little screen on the camera on my 'smart' phone. But here goes.

On one side fall asters are trying to grab space and on the opposite side Texas skullcap is doing the same. Basically it's a jungle.


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This last picture shows that there's more daylilies starting to grow.

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I really need more room!

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