Roses forum: Whatever happened to miniature roses?

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Portland, Oregon (Zone 7b)
Jul 23, 2019 4:25 PM CST
A year or two ago, I finally had the time, space and money to think about roses. I always wanted a miniature rose garden. I bought a miniature. Went to buy a second one, and the company had stopped selling them. I went on line and found dozens of miniature rose nurseries.... all discontinued, out of business, or in Canada, not shipping to the USA. I found Rogue Valley nursery, but wow, they are expensive.

Why are the minis so out of vague?
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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
Jul 23, 2019 4:31 PM CST
I guess they're considered a specialty item so a lot of nurseries don't carry them. Try For Love of Roses, they specialize in miniatures. Also Burlington Roses has a lot because they took over Ralph Moore's roses when he passed away.
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
Jul 23, 2019 5:58 PM CST
Maybe miniature roses are harder to grow and that's why they are being discontinued? Every miniature rose I've bought or had given to me has had a short lifespan. I guess Trader Joe's has taken over the miniature rose market. I always see a large variety there for sale. I just wish I knew how to keep them alive and make them thrive like my HT's and floribundas!
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
Jul 23, 2019 8:00 PM CST
Miniature roses are exactly like their big sisters and require the same care. Mostly good soil, lots of sunshine and adequate water. If you're buying Trader Joe roses that may be your problem. Those are barely rooted cuttings meant for gifts and indoor short term growing. They are literally meant to be thrown away when done blooming. But they don't have to be if they are planted properly outside. Roses are not houseplants!!! Plants ordered from a rose nursery should be of a better quality and a little more mature to begin with. You will also get a named/identified plant variety that you do not get in the grocery store roses.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Jul 23, 2019 11:22 PM CST
My miniatures are rockn. All have new canes, multiple flower flushes, are growing amazingly.

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Parade Gigi
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Autumn Sunblaze
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Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
Jul 24, 2019 4:49 PM CST
Seil's right.

Also, I think the thing some folks miss is that "Miniature" roses aren't little teeny plants -- a la' Trader Joe's. They are for the most part full-sized roses, with small blooms. Even I had 'Jean Kenneally' grow 6-ft tall. And "Miniature" climbers can easily go 10-12-feet ... or even more.
Name: Ken Wilkinson
N.E. GA. (Cornelia) (Zone 7b)
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Jul 24, 2019 6:33 PM CST
Forloveofroses, Burling and K&M Roses are your best bet for good Mini's and miniflora's. Don't forget, most of the bush's will grow to be good size plants.
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Kiss Kordana (grocery store mini)

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Mini's. These are decent size bush's
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Jul 25, 2019 12:46 PM CST
I hope my minis get that big. Plant wise. But I think mine will stay under 2ft tall.
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
Jul 26, 2019 8:37 AM CST
I love my mini's and the Ralph Moore mini's have to be some of the healthiest roses I have. The only mini thing about them is the size of their flower. Forget TJ's and go with some from Burling. They do work well in pots.
Sequoia Gold
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Halo Sweetie
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Peppermint Parfait

Vineyard Song aka Bunch of Grapes (very young plant that is much better for me than Sweet Chariot)
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Minnie Mouse
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Diamond Anniversary
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Lavender Crystal
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Name: Mindy
Michigan (Zone 6b)
Aug 8, 2019 6:57 AM CST
I grow several mini's. Climbing Baby darling is a favorite. It gets big! My plant is only 2 years old and last year grew to 8 feet, in Michigan.
Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
Aug 8, 2019 7:14 AM CST
I have never had any luck with grocery store Minnie's except for Gigi which has done really well
I get my minis from for love of roses and about half of them have done super well the other half of gone he way of a lot of other minis with mildew and black spot and they ended up in the dumpster.
Here's the ones that are doing great

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You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
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Sydney, Australia (Zone 10b)
Aug 11, 2019 4:54 PM CST
I think the novelty of them wore off...that or its just a case of no one is really breeding them anymore so there's no "new" interest being generated. I mean if a new mini came out that was super appealling to a lot of people thered be a bunch of those people looking at other minis available too.

I think in most ways they are being supplanted by mini-flora though. Mini flora typically having larger than mini flowers and on a plant size that isnt super variable (ie my Magic Carrousel is easily 7ft tall)
Anyone with oryzalin (aka Surflan, Embargo), am looking for a small amount rather than 5litres from manufacturer (min size in Australia....)
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Aug 12, 2019 12:45 AM CST
Over 2 foot tall now.
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Parade Gigi
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Both are doing great.

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