RickM said:I would consider making all of the pathways 2 feet wide instead of your current 2-3-2-3. With the 'reclaimed' space, that gives you 2 feet to put a pathway behind the West bed, making it easier to get to those back 2 feet of the bed.
NoviceGarden said:Dear wife was not convinced that the initial design was the right one for our garden. She'd prefer something more straight forward like this below
I think this is nice too.
Thoughts?
NoviceGarden said:So the picture isn't really complete. The house is below the bottom, several feet from the garden. There are various beds around the house not portrayed as they're not, strictly speaking anyway, part of this garden. The grapes are apparently nimrod seedless grapes, which the prior owner claims are a wine grape. They're already there and have been for years but the vines are in rough shape having become a buffet for Japanese beetles. In with the grapevines, I found what may be hardy kiwi vines as well.
To the sides of the garden there is lawn except the walk out here spot which is where the patio ends.
Sallymander said:I re-read your original post. You have my sympathies. Black "weed barrier" cloth is one of the greatest scams in the industry. It is the worst. Good luck ripping it out and good riddens. Never put it back in.
NoviceGarden said:
Yeah, there is an existing garden with edging that fell apart and some rock hard soil that they clearly were trying to amend with compost over time. I'm going to rip out the old edging which is falling over everywhere, remove the red path stones they used, remove the weed barrier and basically start over. Really, the only stuff I'm planning the keep are the blackberries, which have been a delight, maybe some strawberry plants if I can safely dig them out, maybe save some of the perennial flowers and then I'm going redo the garden area. That's why the grapes and blackberries are basically the edge of the picture. The lawn is much bigger than it appears on the image, it's just that's where the lawn begins. The location of the garden was the right spot. The old owners had that done right.
The patio is at the bottom right corner below the yard. It's under a pergola, which keeps it shaded, the pergola appears to have wisteria vines growing on several areas.i haven't decided if we'll cut it all down as wisteria is pretty poisonous and the pods can be mistaken for string beans by a child. For now, I removed the pods but I suspect the wife will ask me to remove the wisteria soon.
Sallymander said:I re-read your original post. You have my sympathies. Black "weed barrier" cloth is one of the greatest scams in the industry. It is the worst. Good luck ripping it out and good riddens. Never put it back in.