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Aug 16, 2019 5:02 PM CST
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Hackettstown, NJ (Zone 6a)
I am guessing this is in the echeveria family. Just love this plant! If has grown so nicely this summer. Succulents are always so intriguing since they are so unique.
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Aug 16, 2019 5:04 PM CST
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Stunning depth of color! Thumbs up
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Aug 16, 2019 10:09 PM CST
Name: Stefan
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I do beleive its echeveria black knight
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Aug 16, 2019 10:18 PM CST
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That reddish color argues against Black Knight, as do the bulbils and bracts on the flower stalk (if that's what I'm seeing on those vertical stalks).

There are two black Echeverias in the ballpark, Black Prince and Black Knight, neither of which is a good match (that reddish color). Black Knight is selection of E. affinis, which has really puny and insubstantial bracts on its inflorescence:



In contrast, Black Prince is a hybrid with shaviana, and it has much meatier bracts and flowers:



But neither is a good match for the plant in the OP, though this is definitely the season for flowering among the black Echeverias. The leaf shape is also a mismatch.
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Aug 16, 2019 10:22 PM CST
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Do they crossbreed?
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Aug 16, 2019 10:23 PM CST
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Yes, Echeverias definitely can hybridize with other Echeverias. That is part of what makes them so hard to identify some times.
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Aug 16, 2019 10:25 PM CST
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Interesting! And also Sighing!
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Aug 16, 2019 10:25 PM CST
Name: Stefan
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The second(black knight) is not top down.
Does it look like this
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This does fit the description of afinis x shaviana.
This is the black prince im familiar with(and it can be green to very dark brown).
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Aug 16, 2019 10:50 PM CST
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Yes, that is Black Prince. From the patio (a bit dirty due to the season):



And it is green to dark brown, bordering on black, but never a reddish tone.
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Aug 17, 2019 5:52 AM CST
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Hackettstown, NJ (Zone 6a)
This is at the beginning of the summer before the growth took off.
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Aug 17, 2019 5:54 AM CST
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Baja - that last one you posted of Black Prince is awesome with the flowers!
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Aug 17, 2019 6:23 AM CST
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stunning plant whatever it is..looks amazing I tip my hat to you.
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Aug 17, 2019 3:26 PM CST
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Hackettstown, NJ (Zone 6a)
I don't suppose this variety will be cold hardy... Shall I be bringing it in for the winter? Thank You!
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Aug 17, 2019 3:47 PM CST
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Yes, definitely.
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Aug 17, 2019 6:39 PM CST
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Its just so awesome to be able to chat and share with fellow gardeners!! Hurray! Smiling Thumbs up
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Aug 17, 2019 6:43 PM CST
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Please continue to share photos if your Echeveria ends up flowering, which I suspect may be happening in the near future. You have a really striking plant, and it's only getting better with time. Smiling

Feel free to stop by the chat thread for ongoing chat about random succulents:

The thread "Cactus and succulents chat" in Cactus and Succulents forum
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Aug 22, 2019 4:50 PM CST
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Hackettstown, NJ (Zone 6a)
Thanks Baja! I will look for it- I wasn't sure if it would flower - so exciting! These florets can be planted to grow new ones, correct?
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Aug 22, 2019 5:01 PM CST
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If they are offsets (branches, new heads) then they can be cut and rooted to start new plants. If they are inflorescences (ie. if flowers appear higher up them stem) then you can also cut and root them, but you may only end up with a rooted inflorescence, which eventually runs out of steam, not usually a new plant. I suspect you have inflorescences based on the vertical growth of the stems. Offsets tend to go sideways instead. But I have never seen your plant before so that's just a guess. They could be inflorescences with offsets at the base (bulbils).

By all means experiment with propagation whenever you get the itch, and see what grows out. I would go for one of the heads below the terminal rosette on the upward growing stems. Cut cleanly across the stem with a sharp blade about half an inch below any rosette. Allow the cutting to heal for a few days, then plant it up in a relatively small pot with just that little nub of stem (but none of the leaves) buried. Use a pot with holes at the bottom and use soil with good drainage. Provide strong light and water when the soil goes dry at depth, and within a few weeks you will notice a dramatic change of mood as the plant grows enough roots to rehydrate and make new leaves.
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Aug 23, 2019 7:18 AM CST
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Thank you - I will give it a go! Smiling
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Aug 24, 2019 11:32 PM CST
Name: Dennis O'Neill
So. Cal. L.A. Cty (Zone 9b)
I was looking for info. on an Echeveria cross of 'Zorro' and I accidently came across a plant that looks very similar to your beautiful plant. I believe the echeveria originates from Korea and is called Echeveria ' Serrana'. It's description says it leaves ranges in color from black and red brown. I googled and there are a good number of photos to compare under that name. Hope this helps get you a definitive name for your awesome plant. Here is an address for a very similar looking plant at about the same stage of development. Dennis

https://worldofsucculents.com/...
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