Daylilies forum: First Flower Open dates (FFO)

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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Aug 30, 2019 9:30 AM CST
Does anyone keep a record of the first flower open dates of the daylily cultivars that they grow and you have at least five, ten or more years of information? I am interested in trying to use the information to check the effect of temperature on FFO.
Maurice
Name: Marcia
Rochester, ny, zone 6 (Zone 6b)
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DaylilyDazzled
Aug 30, 2019 7:57 PM CST
Sorry I just started paying attention and recording it this year wish I could help. Sad
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Aug 31, 2019 6:39 AM CST
Sorry, I don't keep very good records despite my sincere efforts. I looked back thinking I would have that info for maybe five years on some, but found not a single plant with it recorded for more than three, and not a lot of those.
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Aug 31, 2019 6:48 AM CST
Surely someone got excited at seeing the FFO and caught it with their cell phone. They would have the file info. People have been posting their pics on here for years. Thumbs up
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Name: Dave
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Aug 31, 2019 8:04 AM CST
Maurice
I have FFO data which goes back to 2010 for whatever cultivars I had then at both my current locations. It's on separate Excel spreadsheets so it would take some time to compile or I can edit it down with less time to cultivars and you could compile it. Send me a tree mail if you're interested.
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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Aug 31, 2019 9:54 AM CST
It looks like I have records going back to 2014. But many of those cultivars have died. Would you only want ones with a full 5 years of data?

Second, I'm not sure how you are going to get the temps. If you just look at the official temp for NYC that is taken in Central Park. My temps are often plus/minus 5 degrees (further north, less concrete). You'd have to get temps specifically for my borough.
Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
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Char
Aug 31, 2019 2:58 PM CST

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I've got 10 compiled for you Maurice. The first 7 are from 2009 - 2019. Destined to See is 2009 - 2017. The last two are 2005 - 2019.

Primal Scream - 7/22, 7/13, 7/18, 7/10, 7/14, 7/19, 7/14, 7/15, 7/23, 7/16, 7/20

Itsy Bitsy Spider - 6/28, 6/24, 6/27, 6/23, 6/29, 7/6, 6/29, 6/28, 6/28, 6/21, 7/3

Astral Voyager - 7/12, 7/13, 7/18, 7/7, 7/9, 7/14, 7/11, 7/12, 7/13, 7/4, 7/19

Benjamin - 7/19, 7/9, 7/16, 7/13, 7/19, 7/19, 7/17, 7/17, 7/20, 7/14, 7/22

Stoned Soul Picnic - 7/23, 7/24, 7/25, 7/22, 7/27, 7/26, 7/27, 7/23, 7/23, 7/15, 7/30

Tuxedo Whiskers - 7/19, 7/11, 7/17, 7/11, 7/13, 7/17, 7/16, 7/17, 7/19, 7/1, 7/22

Jerry Hyatt - 7/18, 7/10, 7/16, 7/12, 7/19, 7/17, 7-15, 7/14, 7/20, 7/8, 7/22

Destined to See - 7/13, 7/6, 7/14, 7/6, 7/9, 7/14, 7/14, 7/15, 7/12

H. middendorffii - 6/8, 6/7, 6/6, 5/30, 6/1, 5/28, 5/31, 5/28, 6/1, 5/30, 6/1, 6/4, 6/1, 5/29, 6/8

Wings of Chance - 7/8, 7/6, 7/3, 6/30, 7/2, 6/27, 7/3, 6/26, 7/3, Deer, 7/1, 6/30, 7/7, Deer, 7/10 (Deer = deer ate scapes Sad )

There's more in the notebook and sdlg/now registered records, just time consuming gathering each cv FFO with the year. My notebooks go by year, date and a list of cv's/sdlg numbers FFO for each day. I've always meant to find time during the winter to add them all to an excel sheet.....maybe this will be the year.
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Sep 2, 2019 7:31 AM CST
bxncbx said:It looks like I have records going back to 2014. But many of those cultivars have died. Would you only want ones with a full 5 years of data?

Second, I'm not sure how you are going to get the temps. If you just look at the official temp for NYC that is taken in Central Park. My temps are often plus/minus 5 degrees (further north, less concrete). You'd have to get temps specifically for my borough.


Yes, I would need data on cultivars for at least five years.
The NOAA apparently has past climate data for 269 stations for New York "city"; I am hopeful that at least one of those is reasonably close to you.

Maurice
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Sep 2, 2019 7:34 AM CST
@Char
Thank you.
May I please have the name of a nearby town.
Maurice
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Sep 2, 2019 2:09 PM CST
Okay, I'm compiling the info but I won't have it ready until next week. I'm not sure how many cultivars will have 5 years since many don't bloom every year.
Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
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Char
Sep 2, 2019 3:07 PM CST

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admmad said:@Char
Thank you.
May I please have the name of a nearby town.

I used to like the site that is now Weather Underground, before it changed you could find the HDD and GDD numbers easily. I'm not sure where the NOAA stations are near me.
I'm in East Thetford, Thetford Center is roughly a mile over the hill. largest towns nearby would be Hanover NH, Lebanon NH, White River Junction VT . All are typically 5 degrees warmer than we are. If there is a Woodstock VT they tend to be about the same as us.
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Sep 9, 2019 12:17 PM CST
I've finally finished my spreadsheet. @admmad could you treemail me an email address to send it to you. It's an Excel spreadsheet. Thanks!

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