Roses forum→...When she was good, she was very good and when she was bad, she was horrid!

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Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
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Mustbnuts
Sep 3, 2019 12:40 PM CST
Do you remember the little ditty, There was a little girl. Who had a little curl. Right in the middle of her forehead. When she was good, she was very good and when she was bad, she was horrid!

Guess who has a head full of curls and always hated that poem? Anyhow, I have been deadheading, cleaning up crispy, burnt leaves, etc., on my roses. I also have been thinking of that "lovely" little poem. Which rose for you lives up to this "poem?"

For me, it has to be the following;
Wedding Cake. She looks great in the spring...for about two weeks to a month. The rest of the year, not so much. Once those hoplia beetles hit, it is pretty much downhill until the next spring. Flowers get very small (not that they were huge...), prone to some black spot, not much in the bloom department (compared to others). I hate to get rid of her especially given that she is getting pretty rare, but I think others would do better in that spot. Her flowers feel like they are made of leather. Very weird and very different.

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No pictures of when she looks bad as I am too embarrassed to take them and show them. Picture burnt, bent twigs with burnt leaves, tiny fried flowers and you get the picture.

Jude the Obscure. Took me ten years to finally get rid of this rose and have never looked back. Blooms on the tippy top of canes that are over 6 feet tall. Pretty much a once bloomer in my yard. Not really a scent for me. Each year I thought I would finally get to see the rose everyone raves about. Never happened. So glad it is gone.

Candice. Love this rose. She is gorgeous. So are her thorns. They are long, sharp and definitely grab you as you try to clean her up. She is usually very good, but when she is bad, she can be horrid and really hurt you. She is, however, on my definite stay list. She does have a tendency towards black spot even in my climate that doesn't really get black spot. With the prolonged wet spring we had, she is pretty much naked at this moment. Hoping her leaves will fill in soon. What the disease didn't get, the heat and sun did. Ugh! Feel so sorry for her at the moment.

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Just picture the above for the bad photo, with smaller flowers and naked canes.

Midnight Blue and Blue for You--look great for the first two seconds the flowers open for me and then they turned into a gray mess. They went bye-bye last year.

Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 3, 2019 2:33 PM CST

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I love this idea for a thread. I've had many horrible rose bushes that produced gorgeous blooms. One was Purple Tiger. I tried to grow it several times, but each time it was a magnet for pests and diseases and ultimately died.



Osiria was another one that refused to stay alive. I think it was one of the prettiest roses I've ever grown, but the plant was weak and usually devoid of foliage.



The very worst, though, was Baronne Prevost. It attracted every pest and disease imaginable. In fact, it's the only rose I've ever had that suffered from downy mildew and rust. It also was prone to black spot and powdery mildew and attracted curculio weevils, thrips, and rose slugs. It's the only rose I have deliberately killed, and it even failed to die properly. After I dug it up, it kept coming back from small pieces of roots I must have missed.

Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
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SoCalGardenNut
Sep 3, 2019 3:34 PM CST
So far Bridal Act rose is acting funny. The buds tend to shrivel before opening up. My philosophy is to get rid of things I don't like or not performing as intended. After all, I'm not getting any younger, if I buy anything and it doesn't work out, I intend to be ruthless, aka get rid of it. Lol.
The question is how long should I wait before I do so.
I try to grow everything, sometime not successful.
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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Sep 3, 2019 5:21 PM CST
MBN, When Wedding Cake first came out I remember there was lots of talk about how different it was and people either loved it or hated it. I loved at first. Since then my opinion has changed. The oddity has worn off and now I think it's rather drab. I'll take my Koko Loco for odd ball color any day. The bloom form is much prettier.

Zuzu, I had the same problems with Purple Tiger so when it succumbed to winter I never replaced it.

I have two that were the pits. Summer Fashion had a beautiful bloom for all of about two seconds WHEN if deigned to bloom at all, and the plant was atrocious! Bye, bye!

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Snowfire, I loved the red and white blooms but UGH what a crappy rose! It was a heat lover so it never even started to come out of dormancy until July when our humidity is HIGH so it always balled. And then as soon as it did bloom it was covered in diseases. That plus the nasty, vicious thorns on it made it no loss when it croaked.

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Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
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Canadian_Rose
Sep 3, 2019 5:30 PM CST
Right now...all of my roses are horrid...the hail really did a number on my roses which were well done the road to crappy-ville anyway.

Mustbnuts - that really is a beautiful picture of Wedding Cake. Sometimes I'm not sure if I like that rose...but yours I love!

Zuzu - oh swoon and drool over Osiria and Purple Tiger!! Drooling Drooling

GardenNut - I'm the same way. I'm not sentimental to begin with...and if a rose is bugging me...why keep it? It's like growing rhubarb when I hate rhubarb...why would I do that?

Seil...those are glorious pictures! Snowfire is unbelievably gorgeous!!!! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby

Thank You! Mustbnuts!

This is a great thread!
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Mustbnuts
Sep 3, 2019 6:42 PM CST
Zuzu, Purple Tiger has tempted me more than once to get it but then I read the comments on it on HMF and I stay far, far, away. Looks like I will stay away from the Baron as well. Sounds like when I had Evelyn revert back to Dr. Huey. I kept thinking I had gotten rid of it all when......It's Baaaaaaack!

Glad folks are enjoying this thread. I am learning a lot from it!

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