Daylilies forum: daylilies colors dont look like photos

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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jul 13, 2012 12:42 PM CST
Get Jiggy took 3 years in my garden before it got its patterned eyezone.
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hines
Jul 13, 2012 4:18 PM CST
does anyone have a picture of their follow your fancy i just want to see the differnce as mine is peach i now find this fascinating thanks
Name: Michele
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tink3472
Jul 13, 2012 6:48 PM CST
Ann (farmerbell) should have one but in case she doesn't see this here is the thread were she posted a photo of it. Just scroll down some to see it. http://garden.org/thread/view_...
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Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
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bearsearch
Jul 13, 2012 9:12 PM CST
Then there is the issue of colour adjustments. I can guarantee that there has been some " fine tuning " of the images in many a web site and catalogue. There have been many photos of various plants that have NEVER looked like what you see on vendors websites or in their catalogues. For example the lily Purple Prince (my avatar) is often shown as this rich royal purple colour and then you read all the comments from disappointed customers when their plant comes out a much lighter pinkish purple.
When you see these plants with extremely vivid colours think MANIPULATION! Not all companies do it but there are a lot because if you can catch the eye of your potential customer you have a better chance of making that sale. This sounds very negative of me but it is true. If you look closely at the photos and the edges are a little more crisp and shadows are more defined, that picture has been manipulated. The camera taking the image, the lighting, time of day, filters and even the lens all make a difference in colour and characteristics of the flowers.
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hines
Jul 14, 2012 8:47 AM CST
thank you so much for the information and picture ive got it now and i understand from now on i just look here and research more before ordering thank you its all so interesting
Name: Dot or Dorothy Parker
Fort Worth TX (Zone 8a)
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Ladylovingdove
Jul 14, 2012 12:17 PM CST
I didn't want to say all that Brian, but it is so true.
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
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bearsearch
Jul 14, 2012 7:33 PM CST
Ladylovingdove said:I didn't want to say all that Brian, but it is so true.


I missed that part in your post earlier. I've been wanting to say that for a long time because it really bugs me when these companies do that. Grumbling
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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mistyfog
Jul 14, 2012 11:00 PM CST
My biggest disappointment this year was Call Me Carla, but will
give it another year to evaluate the color. It did go through a progression
of changes as it grew, and the weather is definitely an important
variable, but I did not see what I expected to see.
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Jul 15, 2012 7:52 AM CST
That's why I love this database we're contributing to. Every time I see a hybridizer's picture of a daylily that I think I'd be interested in, I check the ATP database to see if there are garden shots of that daylily to give more of an idea of what it will really look like in the garden. And also that's why I'm so thrilled that so many people post pictures of their flowers here as they bloom, and especially all of you who post pictures of the really newer introductions as they bloom in your gardens. That is extremely valuable information to me!

Betty
Name: shirlee
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mistyfog
Jul 15, 2012 10:02 AM CST
I agree What Betty said. Absolutely!!!

hines
Jul 15, 2012 11:13 AM CST
perfectly said and the policy im going to follow now that im lucky enough to have these resouces and knowledge thanks somuch pictures in the garden are worth a thousand words
Name: Arlene
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florange
Jul 15, 2012 4:44 PM CST
I'm here in Central FL. This spring I was at Watermill Gardens 7 different times to take pictures because the owner doesn't like to take pictures. The only thing I ever did was to brighten the photos because I was taking them in deep shade. I found I hate that white umbrella and I have two of them! I must have taken 20 photos of certain seedlings. They changed each week and many are to be introduced this fall. Anyway, he has all of the pictures and what happens after that isn't my responsibility. I know that there has been problems in the industry and that's why I've never learned to use Photoshop.

Each year I take "family portraits" of my daylilies. They pose and sometime yell--hey it ain't gonna get any better! Get over here! I love them and they know it. I took that same attitude at Watermill. Why doctor pictures--the blooms are beautiful! If anyone has issues plants with that garden, I'll look through the photos and see if I can help. Just keep in mind that I focused on seedlings.
Name: Jan
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philljm
Jul 15, 2012 5:36 PM CST
Thanks Arlene!
Name: Mona
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monalisa18
Jul 15, 2012 8:18 PM CST
I really want to buy some of the newest daylilies that are introduced this Fall, BUT! after seeing alot of the photos this Spring of the new intros that were made in our gardens, then comparing them to the "catalog" photos, I think I may just buy the ones that have photos posted on this site. I'd be SICK, really sick, if I paid $150 for some of the daylilies that I've seen posted here. I know there can be a shade difference, an eye may or may not be the exact same "etching" but still, when it's all said and done, I shouldn't ever have to wonder if I got the wrong plant.


Name: Arlene
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florange
Jul 16, 2012 7:09 AM CST
As mentioned above, your soil, temperatures, shade/sun exposures and even water quality will affect the blooms. Next year, Mona, your blooms should look like the hybridizer's photos. I'm even having that problem and I live in the same county as Water Mill, Floyd Cove and Art Gallery Gardens, I'm just beachside while the daylily growers are inland. I have the advantage of going through Floyd Cove and saying "I want THAT plant in that pot". Karen always points out a better example in another pot and away we go. Dan Trimmer digs while I'm watching and so does Luddy. Admittedly, my flowers don't exactly look like Luddy's in form (that one special day that it looks like that), but the colors and general form are there. The pictures are static, but in the garden flowers are ever changing and they are beautiful!

I'm tending toward buying 1-3 yr old plants. I look them up here on this data base to see how they look in gardens. I've been adding to the data base myself with some of the newer blooms. The pictures were from either my garden or at the growers when I picked up the plants. If you have any questions about any of those photos, just ask.
Name: shirlee
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mistyfog
Jul 16, 2012 7:18 AM CST
I have noticed from purchased flowers as well as my own seedlings
that many flowers go through stages to get to what I call the finished look.
Getting a newly purchased flower, and then having to wait for several
blooms to develop 'true' made me think I had the wrong flower, because
the first blooms were so different.

Some will go through the same stages on rebloom as well. I personally
don't like flowers that do this. I prefer those that bloom with that finished
look from start to finish, like the older plants do. I now choose seedlings
that have a more stable bloom as one criteria for evaluation.

And then, of course, there are those that will never look like the catalog
photo. I bought one of those this year. I won't make that mistake again.
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jul 16, 2012 8:42 AM CST
I have found that to be true. Some plants take 3 years here in the north to really look like the pic I've seen of it.
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Name: Arlene
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florange
Jul 16, 2012 1:55 PM CST
It's not just in the north that it takes plants a while to get settled. I grow in boxes just like those at Kinnebrews (they showed us how to do them). I've had Going Green (Floyd Cove) for three years this fall. Short, low budcount, unattractive. That one's on the list to leave the garden this fall. It must have known, because on rebloom (first time it's rebloomed for me) blooms are lovely--softly green, big, and beautiful. Go figure. I took it off the list and will leave it where it is. Usually plants don't take this long to get established. Good thing, too.
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Jul 16, 2012 4:18 PM CST
My greatest surprise for a daylily not looking like the hybridizer's picture was BAJA CALIFORNIA, and I don't think it will ever look here like its picture -- I still love it and think it is a serenely beautiful daylily, but nothing like the bright lively bloom in that picture. And the one that has impressed me the most is PARROTS OF THE CARIBBEAN -- what a wonderful, gorgeous, lively flower both in the hybridizer's picture and also here in Bakersfield! I don't get many new introductions, but I have received a couple of gift introductions from Floyd Cove over the last couple of years that I absolutely love -- LIMONERO SQUEEZE and LAKE CHAMPAGNE were wonderful surprises, and I don't think a photograph can do justice to either one. I just love that beautiful lavender-pink color and wonderful bubbly border of LAKE CHAMPAGNE, and the color of LIMONERO SQUEEZE is absolutely luminescent in the shade.

While I realize that much of the color and detail of daylily blooms is affected by my climate, soil, etc., I would challenge anyone to show us a photo that has not been retouched of a bloom of TALLADEGA that matches the color of the hybridizer's picture.

Betty
Name: Jan
Hustisford, WI
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philljm
Jul 16, 2012 4:37 PM CST
I have always loved Talledega from the very first time I saw it. And it is ALWAYS shown as a bright firery red color. But, even the AHS database has it described as a "rose-red". To me, there is a huge difference between "red" and "rose"-red.

I have now taken it off my want list ~Jan

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