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Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
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MelissaHopper
Sep 5, 2019 8:31 PM CST
The L&M stands for Lynn and Melissa. As in Lynn Smith and me, Melissa!!

Today I spent the afternoon with Lynn at her house and had a great time. I wanna steal her Susie dog.

We have come up with what I think is going to be a very interesting project. Lynn loaded me up with a bunch of very tiny semps today while I was visiting her. Some of them are offsets from her own seedlings that she is growing out and some of them are offsets from her German plants.

She has them growing at her house and I am going to grow them at my house, of course. And then we are going to compare and hopefully learn something from all this? Or not. But I still think it will be a fun project.

You can check this thread for updates and pictures. I am going to be very busy tomorrow potting up all these little guys. I think I have something like 30 or 40 of them.

Photos will follow!
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Sep 6, 2019 10:10 AM CST
Somehow the thought of you two teaming up is a bit scary! I'm sure there will be a bit of mischief going along with the semp talk!

Kevin
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Sep 6, 2019 11:38 AM CST

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As many of you know I don't provide the best environment for my much loved semps. Water is at a premium here in my area, so my semps get very little water in the drought season. Despite this they still reward me with their beauty.
The down side is that I really don't know how many of them will grow under more favorable conditions. Thus Melissa and I will be conducting an experiment. This will also help us to do some updating in our semp database. Hurray!
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Sep 7, 2019 10:39 AM CST
Great idea to team up and help further the knowledge we need regarding what I always hear people say when they look at somebody else's semp: Why doesn't my {insert any semp name here} look like that Confused
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Sep 7, 2019 11:07 AM CST

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That is so true Bev.
I started realizing even in my own garden that the same plant can look quite different in the same soil, but different lighting conditions. I have several cultivars growing in two places, full sun and then 1/2 day sun.
And I finally found the perfect spot for my 'Grunrand', it is loving the shadier spot it is living in for two years now. It has looked absolutely beautiful year round in it's new surrounding.
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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plantmanager
Sep 7, 2019 11:11 AM CST
I have a few that I need to move. It's so gratifying when we find the perfect conditions for our semps. They're all so different!
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Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
Semp addict horse junky dog flunky
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MelissaHopper
Sep 7, 2019 1:17 PM CST
Now Kevin, why would you think a couple of sweet old ladies like Lynn and I would do any mischief? Not so!! Angel

How about this.

As I was getting ready to leave Lynn's, I started my car to get the A/C going, closed the driver door and all four doors promptly locked!!! I had a few moments of panic when Lynn reminded me that I had Onstar. We went in the house, called Onstar and within a few seconds my car was unlocked! It was like magic. Hurray! Rolling on the floor laughing

Lesson learned!
Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
Semp addict horse junky dog flunky
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MelissaHopper
Sep 7, 2019 5:38 PM CST
I got everybody potted up and settled in a nice protected spot. And I took some pictures.

This is what I brought home from Lynn's. There are 40 of them.
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Here are Lynn's seedlings.
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This is a selection from Lynn's, a lot of them German.
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Sep 7, 2019 7:06 PM CST

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They all look very happy Melissa.
Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
Semp addict horse junky dog flunky
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MelissaHopper
Sep 7, 2019 9:59 PM CST
I will see that they stay that way. As they grow they will quickly move into bigger pots and by spring I hope to have them all settled and ready to GROW!! Now I need to start working on my pot collection. It is getting a bit low with all the planting I have been doing.
Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
Semp addict horse junky dog flunky
Sempervivums Keeps Horses Dog Lover Critters Allowed Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Photography
Hummingbirder Region: Oregon
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MelissaHopper
Apr 30, 2020 5:29 PM CST
And here we finally are with some pictures of our little project.

Alesia
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Anka
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Beatles Memory
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Bloody Mary Seedling #1
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Bloody Mary Seedling #2
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Bloody Mary Seedling #3
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Casablanca
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Chocolate Dip
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Devils Touch
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Donna Karan
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Dunkel Rot
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Eyjafjalla
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Fernanda
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Feueropal
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Green Dolphin
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Hatra
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Jamila
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Kittys Passion
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Lipstick
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Lott Lott
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Majanka
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Manfred Merz
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Mitchells Gold Seedling #17
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Olivine
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Persephone Seedling #12
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Persephone Seedling Violet/Apricot
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Rhubarb Crumble
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Saxon
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Sonnenkuss
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Sylvia
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Tiefpunkt
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Urska
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Vlado
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Wilhelm Tell Seedling #1
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Wilhelm Tell Seedling #2
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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valleylynn
Apr 30, 2020 6:14 PM CST

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My photos were taken in the last few days. I need to get some updated photos for the rest.

Bloody Mary Seedling #2
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Wilhelm Tell Seedling #1
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Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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plantmanager
Apr 30, 2020 6:19 PM CST
You've got me drooling, Lynn! I can't pick favorites. Lovey dubby
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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valleylynn
Apr 30, 2020 7:00 PM CST

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Thank you Karen. We are trying to do a comparison of different semps growing in different gardens/states to see how much the plant can vary during the same date.
Name: Melissa Hopper
St. Helens, Or (Zone 8a)
Semp addict horse junky dog flunky
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MelissaHopper
Apr 30, 2020 8:26 PM CST
They are noticeably different to me. Waiting to see the rest.
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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valleylynn
Apr 30, 2020 8:40 PM CST

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The lighting is all wrong this evening, I will try tomorrow morning.
Hurray!
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan Garden Ideas: Master Level Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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webesemps
May 1, 2020 11:44 AM CST
plantmanager said:You've got me drooling... I can't pick favorites. Lovey dubby


I can!!!
Donna Karan Lovey dubby
Olivine Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
Rhubarb Crumble Lovey dubby
Central CT (Zone 6b)
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JesseInCT
May 1, 2020 6:53 PM CST
Donna Karan is my fav. Interesting project!
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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valleylynn
May 1, 2020 10:01 PM CST

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Okay Melissa, I got some more photos today. Let me see if I can do this without messing up.
All of these have been moved to Oregon City, 1 to 2 weeks ago. So have closed up in protest.
MelissaHopper said:And here we finally are with some pictures of our little project.


Alesia
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Devils Touch
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Donna Karan
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Eyjafjalla
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Feueropal
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Hatra
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Persephone Seedling #12
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I'll try to get some of the others in the next day or two. Hurray!
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan Garden Ideas: Master Level Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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webesemps
May 1, 2020 10:42 PM CST
Oh my, a lot of the corresponding ones are noticibly different from each other. Really cant match them up on color alone: Alesia and Devils Touch varied a lot.

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