Daylilies forum: Show us your PODS

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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 17, 2019 12:39 AM CST
Next year I will try Fred's method on a few early pods. I think his is going to be the best option for anyone wanting to start seeds a few weeks after harvest. After collecting pods he gives the seeds a little rub on a towel and stright in the fridge they go. No extra moisture needed. For seeds planted in spring I will stick with my 3 days drying in the AC and then in the fridge until spring.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Sep 17, 2019 6:42 AM CST
What is the purpose of the "little rub on a towel"?
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Sep 17, 2019 6:49 AM CST
I dry mine for a few days, usually 3 or 4, then into the fridge for dry storage.

Last year I tried a new method for moist stratification. Rather than using the moist vermiculite in a baggie in the refrigerator, I planted my seeds directly into moistened seed starting soil in beverage cups. Then I put them in my unheated basement. I left them for a month or until they started to germinate. Many crosses started to germinate in three weeks. If they germinated, I brought them up and put them under lights. If not, I left them in the cool basement for 30 days, then brought them upstairs into the warmth to germinate.

This method worked really well for me. If you have a cool room, or root cellar, any place that stays above freezing but under 50 F, it might be worth a try with a few seeds.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 17, 2019 8:07 AM CST
Seedfork said:What is the purpose of the "little rub on a towel"?


I guess because of rain or overhead watering. You want all the water off the outside of your seeds but to keep your moisture on the inside Thumbs up
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Name: Ashton & Terry
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kidfishing
Sep 17, 2019 9:24 AM CST
I need to ask, does anyone else on here find that drying some seeds will destroy them? We used to dry seeds but have found that some shrivel and never sprout. This is when they are dried at room temps. We find many EV tet seeds cannot be dried at room temp or a % will be lost.

We also find lots of seeds sprouted in the pods. If you dry seeds that are starting to sprout they will be destroyed even if this is only the tiniest green tip showing.
We also have very few seeds that mold in the fridge either with dry cold chill or moist cold chill. About 5-10 bags out of 1000 will have some mold and this is with no seed drying time. The ones that mold are bags where I put too many seeds in the bag. I still get away with that most of the time.
I know most seeds can be dried including almost all diploids and dormant tets.

Also just asking, but why dry seeds that will then go right away to moist mix or moist chill? Seems like an unnecessary step or possibly taking a step backwards before going forward.

If I am concerned about too much moisture when going to dry chill, I place a dry piece of paper towel in the bag with seeds, but I still process all seeds immediately at harvest by doing one of these 3 processes:
1. direct planting them
2. dry cold chill in a bag with a piece of dry paper towel
3. moist cold chill in a bag of moist vermiculite

I think I can correctly determine many crosses or parent plants where seeds do not need stratified. We have been mostly successfully doing this for years. I miss on a few but 90+ percent that we choose for direct planting will sprout in days not weeks. (2-7 days).
Kidfishing
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Sep 17, 2019 11:07 AM CST
I do have seeds that shrivel up when being dried. I always attributed that to bad seed not to the drying.
kidfishing said:
"Also just asking, but why dry seeds that will then go right away to moist mix or moist chill? Seems like an unnecessary step or possibly taking a step backwards before going forward."
That is a good question, and I guess the reason I dry my seeds is that I have read it helps prevent the seeds from molding. Maybe drying toughens up or hardens the outside of the seed and actually delays mold from forming before they sprout?
I almost never have any seed to sprout inside the pod, maybe I have a lot smaller garden and don't let them stay on the plant as long?
I just use tap water, wonder if that has any thing to do with mold or no mold?
I plant my seeds in cups also and then "plant" the cups outside in protected beds (protected with wire covers so critters can't dig them up), not from the weather.
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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Sep 17, 2019 11:12 AM CST
I had a few sprout in the pods last year. Maybe it is because my seed pods mature when the weather is cooler and damper. I planted them as soon as I harvested them and kept them outside as long as I could. I brought them indoors when the weather turned cold. I grow everything under lights indoors over winter, and they were big seedlings when I planted them out in the spring.
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 18, 2019 6:12 AM CST
kidfishing, I had troubles with dried seeds that I won on the LA last winter. A lot of them shriveled, or molded, and never germinated. Most of these were bonus seeds that the seller had in their fridge from the year before, but some were the precious seeds I had won. Crying

I still have several bags of those bonus seeds in MY fridge! Shrug!

Years ago you posted about seeds germinating and starting to grow in the pods. The minute I read that post I stopped worrying about any of it. I pick them, spread them out on a moist paper towel, pop them into a labeled baggie, and leave them in a bowl on the counter.
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 6:46 AM CST
I have never had a seed sprout in a pod but I've had a lot sprout in pots Thumbs up
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 18, 2019 10:32 AM CST
Daniel, Larry, love seeing your baby pictures! Hurray! Angel Hurray!

Daniel, what's that red rope thingie climbing that tree?
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 10:46 AM CST
Hose pipe for overhead watering the redneck way Hilarious!
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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
Sep 18, 2019 10:55 AM CST
It is amazing to see all those pots that can stay outside year round!
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 18, 2019 11:07 AM CST
Daniel, good thing you don't have raccoons!
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 12:12 PM CST
I do have racoons. They ate 40 of my chickens and 12 ducks a few years back. I've since given up on animal farming and will stick with plants.
Why do you say that though, my overhead watering setup has been going strong for 2 years now with no issues. Do they like red hosepipes or something Hilarious!
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Sep 18, 2019 12:24 PM CST
I was thinking because the raccoons would dig all the plants out of the pots. I have raccoons also, but so far they have not dug but a few of the plants out of the pots. They love to dig the plants out of the ground however. I have wire cages around a lot of my plants just to keep digging critters at bay. I just have over 100 daylilies in pots. But today I went to a local nursery and purchased 30 more used pots for .25 each. The daylily club is having an event and I need to dig and divide some plants and was wanting to pot up some of the extra fans for later swaps.I had not given the raccoons much thought...till now! Crying
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 1:00 PM CST
What size did you go with?
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Sep 18, 2019 2:57 PM CST
The pots I got today are 1gal. and 2gal. in my language. She sold them all to me as one gallon. The three gal. pots I thought were too large and would use too much potting soil for my purpose. I thought it strange that the 3 gal. pots said on the bottom 2.03 gal.
I asked why that was and she mentioned something about the government requiring all pots to be measured to standards? Once I heard the word "government" I thought that was enough of an explanation of why a 3gal. pot is actually a 2 gal. pot. , didn't question it any more.
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Sep 18, 2019 3:15 PM CST
Daniel, it's just as Larry said about them digging the plants out of the pots. Although, they killed a bunch of my baby geese before, too. Grumbling

Wouldn't mind seeing more of that watering system Whistling Thumbs up
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 5:07 PM CST
3/4 neverkink hose going over the driveway 14 ft in the air tided to aircraft cable.
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Comes back down to ground level and ties into my timmer and a splitter.
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The timmer goes to 4 sprinklers on 14ft treated 4x4's with a T at the top.
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The splitter goes to a 4 way outlet with 2 more sprinklers I have to turn on manually and a hosepipe for watering odds and ends
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 5:10 PM CST
Sorry the pics are so crappy I'm on my LG stylo 3 and not the samsung, my wife has it right now Thumbs down
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