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Name: DAVID or PRUUNR RETALLICK
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DAVIDRETALLICK
Sep 14, 2019 5:28 AM CST
Hello everyone from north of the border (ZONE 5B)
I need some advice on how to overwinter my June SEED planted seedlings.
We had a terrible spring here, the seedlings have been germinating over the last three months.
I want to cover them with wheat straw for protection (cold-little snow) this winter.
PLEASE tell me when to do it and how deep .
THANK YOU ALL
DR
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
Davi
Sep 14, 2019 6:45 AM CST
I am not north of the border, but I am issuing a caution from past experience not to use straw (oat or wheat) that has seeds in it or you will have a bigger problem in the spring. Shredded leaves would be a better choice.
Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 5:10 AM CST
I agree Aviod wheat straw. They don't thrash that stuff good anymore and you will have thousands of wheat seeds sprouting in your beds if you use it. I use pine straw.
If you are having seedlings not coming up in a few weeks its likely more to do with the dormancy of your seeds than growing conditions. You should try cold moist stratification with your seeds for 3-4 weeks prior to planting and see if that helps with quicker and more even germination. Thumbs up
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Sep 18, 2019 5:20 AM CST
I use pine straw and shredded leaves, but if the problem with wheat and oat straw is that they contain a lot of seeds, is there a way to thrash it better and remove the seeds before using it?
If David has a good supply of wheat straw, surely done right it could be used? Not familiar with wheat or oat straw, but couldn't the tops just be cut off, and the straw be used? Maybe the tops composted one year and used the next?
Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 18, 2019 6:36 AM CST
When wheat straw is in a bale its no longer situated with all the tops facing one way. Its easy to thrash them if all your seeds are at the top. You just grab a stack and smack them in a bucket or something or cut the seed heads off but when they bale that stuff there is no order. You would have to open the bale up, spread it out on a tarp, and look for seed heads with seeds still on them. Too much work. I know the internet swears by this stuff but it's garbage.
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Name: DAVID or PRUUNR RETALLICK
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DAVIDRETALLICK
Sep 20, 2019 10:07 PM CST
My wheat straw has been left to weather for 2 years. The seeds will have been killed over the winters I suppose. We use it and yes we get seeds to sprout, no problem they pull out very easily. Had 30 bales given to me last week. It is well softend and rotted, good stuff.
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 20, 2019 10:22 PM CST
Go for it brother, you can't beat free Thumbs up
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