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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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sooby
Sep 16, 2019 7:03 AM CST
That would work, Tina, because you're using cups so the seeds are not touching the sides like they would do in a baggie. In a baggie ideally the seeds would be enveloped by the vermiculite. I would try just keeping the vermiculite damp rather than very wet, the seeds will still take up enough water with the lids being on. If the vermiculite is dampened before the seeds are added, and then the lids put on, they shouldn't need more water until germination starts and the lids come off.
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Sep 16, 2019 7:52 AM CST
Seed dormancy can be very complicated. It is not only possible that the seeds from the same cross produced in one location have different dormancy than when produced in another location but it is also possible that they have different dormancy when produced in the same location but in different years. It is even possible that if there are several clumps of the pod parent growing in the same garden but in different locations in that garden (and experiencing different growing conditions) that the seeds from the same cross produced by the pod parents in different clumps may have different seed dormancy.
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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Sep 16, 2019 8:05 AM CST
Just opened up my first bags of seeds that I had added vermiculite to. I had four bags I had put in the fridge back on the 14th of August. One bag contained about 30 seeds (a cross between a NOID I use because it does pods well and an UNK seedling. Something I really was not very proud of obviously so I just tossed them all in the same bag. So these were dips (not really doing much with dip seeds) and there were about a third of the seeds already sprouted (might indicate they did not even need to be stratified).
Two of the other bags had just a couple of sprouted seeds, and the fourth bag had no sprouted seeds. I got them all planted in my cups and will keep an eye on them. One bag had some seeds of (Whooperee x Groove-billed Annie) these were tets and they will hopefully produce some sculpted relief seedlings, only two out of eight had sprouted. I planted them four to a cup. Looking forward to spring.
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Sep 16, 2019 8:11 AM CST
A further possible complication to daylily seed dormancy is that seed dormancy can depend on when the pods are collected and what happens to the seeds after the pods are collected. In some species, seeds collected early and planted will germinate (show no signs of dormancy) while those that are collected when naturally mature are dormant.

Some daylily hybridizers collect seeds when a squeeze test of the pods indicates that the pods are able to open. Others may wait until the pods show the first visible signs of opening and yet others may wait until the pods are open and may have been open for a short time (or perhaps even a "long" time). Possibly others simply collect seeds when pods are a certain age. Those different schedules may affect the presence or absence of daylily seed dormancy or its strength.
Maurice
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