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Name: Debbie Diamond
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hardwarechick
Oct 4, 2019 9:16 AM CST
I rescued this Agave (1st photo) the other day. I forgot to take a before photo. All of the leaf edges and most of the leaves (don't know what you call agave foliage) were brown and dead. Can it live after all of that butchering and anyone know the name of this one?
I also rescued ( 2nd photo) this one in April but I don't know it's name either. Finally, I love love the one in the 3rd photo. I got that one for $6.00 a few months ago but I don't know which one it is. I'm sorry if I'm asking this in the wrong place. I still can't navigate this site. Whoops! They're completely backwards. 3rd one is the one I love love, second is a rescue that's doing ok. The name of it starts with an "O". The 1st one had to be butchered and I don't know what it is. Thank you to all you devoted plant lovers.
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mcvansoest
Oct 4, 2019 10:00 AM CST
Your butchered plant looks pretty good for being butchered. I think it is Agave lophantha. It should be fine, just pot it up.

The second one, I think the name you may be referring to is Agave ocahui but those do not come with a central stripe afaik. I could be a hybrid of it, it has filifers so you could check out what other filiferous agaves look like it.

The first one - which looks really good btw - I do not know exactly what it is, I recognize it but the things I thought it could be certainly were not it. It could be an open posture, low # of leaves Agave demeesteriana variegata, but I am not sure of that.
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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Oct 4, 2019 12:53 PM CST

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I agree about the second plant... the spineless margins and marginal hairs should narrow down the list of options (and exclude ocahui) but it's not ringing any bells for me.
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 4, 2019 2:23 PM CST
Isn't the third plant that's really the first plant, the Love-Love plant, an Agave Americana?
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Name: Thijs van Soest
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mcvansoest
Oct 4, 2019 3:46 PM CST
It does not give me an americana feeling, but I am used to plants grown in a lot of sun, maybe it is a shade grown plant and therefore a little floppy, a little too green, and with somewhat unexpected leaf shape...

As to the second photo: it could be a somewhat shade grown version of Agave microceps... which has filifers, a central stripe, and some plants have white leaf markings, which you can see traces of on this plant. Leaves are a little long though... could be a low sun environment that causes that.

Edit: I cannot come up with anything better than Daisy's sense of Americana for the variegated plant... it does not quite feel right to me, but nothing else that isn't pretty rare or hard to come by pops up as a candidate...
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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Oct 4, 2019 7:52 PM CST

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Yes, Agave microceps. Thumbs up
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 4, 2019 8:41 PM CST
I saw this at Home Depot this afternoon:

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Do you think this could be it? It was a gorgeous plant but only hardy to 20 - 25F.
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plantmanager
Oct 4, 2019 8:42 PM CST
That's a gorgeous plant, Daisy! Did you buy it?
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 4, 2019 8:57 PM CST
It grows to 2 - 3 ft wide. It would have to be a 'house' plant and I don't have space for a plant that big! It even clumps! Lovey dubby But no, I left it at the store.
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mcvansoest
Oct 4, 2019 11:25 PM CST
That is what I thought it was Daisy, but when I looked at the teeth on the plant in the original post I changed my mind, after comparing to pictures of much more mature plants that were grown in a harsher climate/more light, but now with your pictures I think that that is what it must be.
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Name: Debbie Diamond
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hardwarechick
Oct 5, 2019 5:30 AM CST


Name: Debbie Diamond
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hardwarechick
Oct 5, 2019 5:42 AM CST
Hi there. I wanted to try and get this right. I'm just not very techie. This is the butcheredAgave that I rescued or I'm slowly murdering. It had painful spines but the plant looked so bad that I just went to town on trimming anything brown or dead. It was so tightly packed. Do you think it could be Agave salmiana (google)? Now you can see which one is the butchered one. Thanks guys and dolls.
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Name: Debbie Diamond
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hardwarechick
Oct 5, 2019 5:50 AM CST
This is the Agave that I got from cactus limon.com. It hasn't grown any in the 10 months I've had it but I will love it because it's mine. It was kind of raggedy so I guess it is doing something. I just looked at the invoice that says its a ocahui. I think baja costello said that. Thanks to all of you regulars for all of the great info. I'll take any that y'all send to me.
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Name: Debbie Diamond
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hardwarechick
Oct 5, 2019 6:07 AM CST
Sorry _costerro. My senior years got a hold of my memory but there's some good to that too. I think this one might have been the one daisyl posted photo of: multicolored agave celsii. I think it's gorgeous. Like a little mini one that is just perfect. I googled the lophantha that you (mcvandoest) mentioned and it's gorgeous but I don't know if yall decided for me which one this is? I'm so happily overwhelmed with all of the info and these names etc. and baja your photos are amazing. I'm in awe. Thank You! Thank You!
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Name: Debbie Diamond
Metairie Louisiana
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hardwarechick
Oct 5, 2019 6:35 AM CST
I just got 2 of these at Home Depot the other day for $5.00 each. They're pretty big too. For $5.00 each I had to get 2 They look really healthy to me but I'm so afraid I'm going to kill them. Any idea what they are? Aloe? The other photo is of the cactus I have been looking everywhere for this cactus and to find out the name of it (and the succulent.) Thank you all in advance. I wish you could adopt me. I've never been in any other climate. Does someone need a grandmother? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Name: Debbie Diamond
Metairie Louisiana
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hardwarechick
Oct 5, 2019 6:53 AM CST
I just realized that the one that I think is Agave ocahui was a purchased from cactuslimon.com but I have an agave that I literally rescued from a grocery parking lot that I really rescued and saved. It looked like someone dropped it and it fell down face first dumping the wet dirt and some gravel. I parked and went in and told the clerk and he said keep it. I wanted to see about getting the name but it's gone. I've never had anything disappear before so I'm going to check this out. Have a great day guys and dolls
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 5, 2019 10:34 AM CST
The crested one (last photo) is an Opuntia of some sort.

Yes, mcvansoest thinks the variegated one is most likely A. celsii multicolor.

Have a nice day!
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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Oct 5, 2019 3:26 PM CST

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hardwarechick said:Hi there. I wanted to try and get this right. I'm just not very techie. This is the butcheredAgave that I rescued or I'm slowly murdering. It had painful spines but the plant looked so bad that I just went to town on trimming anything brown or dead. It was so tightly packed. Do you think it could be Agave salmiana (google)?
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It looks like this plant:



hardwarechick said:Any idea what they are? Aloe?
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Yes, they are aloes. They look similar to this plant (maybe not a perfect match, but close):

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