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Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Oct 30, 2019 3:25 PM CST
I want to register this daylily but describing the color combinations has me stumped. Can you all give me your opinions?
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Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
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Lyshack
Oct 30, 2019 5:54 PM CST
Of all the people to answer this, you're not likely to find a good answer from me. But I'm interested in what people who are better at this than me say, here, since I do have a couple with similar palettes that do not really match any of the box of 64 Crayolas.

I'm also at a loss for a good description, but I'll give it a try. It's like if coral had an earthtone cousin... would that be a pale terracotta? w/dark cranberry edge and eye? and veining? Sepals... peach???

If you really want to sell a lot, call it Sky Blue with a Sundown Blue eye... and don't forget to mention the polka dots. Smiling

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Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Oct 30, 2019 6:09 PM CST
Polka dots - LOL.

I've been thinking pink and also brown so pale terracotta may be a good description. I just bought some cranberries today. I'll have to compare.

Thanks Tim.
Name: Dave
Wood Co TX & Huron Co MI
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SunriseSide
Oct 30, 2019 6:57 PM CST
Definitely a bitone with the lighter sepals and has a double edge. Gold over green throat. I'll defer to others the petal and eye colors Whistling
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Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Oct 30, 2019 7:42 PM CST
I am terrible with color descriptions too so I have been watching this thread with interest. I must say that Tim's description of your seedling color as pale terracotta is spot on. At first I did not get the cranberry eye, but I am seeing it now.
Name: Trina
Idaho (Zone 7a)
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flowerpower35
Oct 30, 2019 8:56 PM CST
May not be very good at this, but I'll take some from all your suggestions, add my own and give it a try. I think it's a hard thing to do from just a picture and not seeing it with the naked eye.
How about "Pink terracotta with lighter sepals, gently ruffled and veined, cranberry plum eyezone and matching edge, gold over green throat." The colors from the picture are very interesting and it's a very pretty flower!
Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Oct 30, 2019 9:05 PM CST
This is great and I'm so glad I asked you all. I think Tim got us off to a perfect start with the terracotta and I would be happy to use Trina's description of it for my registration/sales description.

Unless someone else weighs in with something that strikes home even better, I think this is it.

Putting names to flower colors is always so difficult to me and I will definitely be coming back for more help.

Thank you, thank you thank you all of you.
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Oct 30, 2019 9:13 PM CST
flowerpower35 said:May not be very good at this, but I'll take some from all your suggestions, add my own and give it a try. I think it's a hard thing to do from just a picture and not seeing it with the naked eye.
How about "Pink terracotta with lighter sepals, gently ruffled and veined, cranberry plum eyezone and matching edge, gold over green throat." The colors from the picture are very interesting and it's a very pretty flower!


Fantastic and precise description, Trina! I am all muddled when it comes to color description.

Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
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RobinSeeds
Oct 30, 2019 9:28 PM CST
Tim got you started in the right direction for sure and Trina brought it home. I agree with the bitone. I agree with the cranberry plum eye, edge and veining but would consider calling the color a terracotta pink, instead of pink terracotta (it rolls off the tongue easier). I also think the ruffling is stronger than gentle, but what do I know. Hilarious!

Thank God people that weren't any good at this answered, right? Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Oct 30, 2019 9:51 PM CST
I agree with terracotta pink sounding better. Thank's Robin.
Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
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Lyshack
Oct 30, 2019 10:02 PM CST
That does sound good. Thumbs up
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Oct 31, 2019 5:57 AM CST
I don't like flowery embellishments and foolishment in the descriptions like you see sometimes. Just state the facts. Because the fact is, it's the photo that sells me. I come on this site to look at everyone's pics of the same flower and they're all different. If the preponderance look close enough to the hybridizers photos, sold! Hurray!



I are sooooo smart!
Name: Trina
Idaho (Zone 7a)
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flowerpower35
Oct 31, 2019 6:28 AM CST
I agree Teracotta pink does sound better.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Oct 31, 2019 6:28 AM CST
I do enjoy reading the written descriptions from many of the daylily hybridizers, especially the descriptive colors. I think because I have such a lack of knowledge of the many colors names. It seems to me they must hire artists to write the descriptions of their plants.
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Oct 31, 2019 3:01 PM CST
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Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Nov 6, 2019 7:49 AM CST
I completely understand what you are saying, Frillylily and feel much the same way myself ... not weird at all.

That being said, sometimes "off" colors somehow strike a chord with me and this seedling has managed to be so appealing to me when seen in person that I decided it's worth registering.
Name: Bob
Northeast Florida (Zone 9a)
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bobjax
Nov 6, 2019 8:54 AM CST
I referred to the color on one of a daylilies I received as terracota. To me, that was a negative description. Try one of these:
https://graf1x.com/24-shades-o...

What about Fandango pink?

Or just google search "shades of pink".
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Nov 7, 2019 8:30 PM CST
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Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
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Lyshack
Nov 7, 2019 11:13 PM CST
I wish more people felt like you, Frillylilly! My most wanted oranges from Judy Davisson seem hopelessly sold out. People can't seem to stop buying the orange ones I'm looking for. Smiling

On the color names, it seems to me that the idea isn't to come up with a catchy color name, but to describe the color of the daylily bloom as clearly and as accurately as you can. If you sell daylilies, or anything really, you want return customers. I suspect it's easier to keep customers coming back if they feel like they got exactly what they were expecting, than if you have amazing color names but they make a lot of your buyers feel misled or disappointed when they finally see the blooms in their garden. At least that's how I see it, for what that's worth. Smiling
Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
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RobinSeeds
Nov 7, 2019 11:56 PM CST
Frillylily, I'm suspecting daylily aficionados, collectors and hybridizers covet the various shades there are available of one color. Some are cool, some warm and some are neutral, all can be clear colors. I don't like muddy colors myself but I enjoy distinctive colors and variations.

Because cameras, lighting, photo editing software and monitors all read and display colors differently, an honest attempt of describing the color I'm supposed to be seeing is great. Some colors are difficult to capture in a digital image. It's highly desirable to me to know that someone has taken the time to help my imagination visualize the investment I'm considering as an addition to my garden or gene pool.

I also suspect more people appreciate your written description than you are aware. I can't (obviously) speak for the people that think orange is orange and orange is old school Thumbs down . If I'm looking for a blue based pink and the photo looks like a blue based pink, I'd be disappointed to see peach the following year when it blooms.
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