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sarahfrompittsburgh
Jan 11, 2020 8:13 AM CST
Hi! I'm new to this forum. Forgive me if something like this has been posted before... I couldn't find it in a search. I recently bought a house and I'm planning the flowers I want and vegetables for my background come springtime. I have a trellis that takes up the whole wall in the front of my house and I'm looking for vining flowers for it. I have (unfortunately imo) morning glories on my backyard fence and I know they can be kind of invasive at least where I live. I love growing from seed and I'm gonna try to start a lot of things inside when its still cold out. I'm looking at black eyed susan vines for the front of the house to fill this trellis. I've heard that they are easy to grow and I think they would work in that area, but I'm a bit worried that they will end up like the morning glories? Any experience with them? Any other flowering vine suggestions that won't take over everything?
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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luvsgrtdanes
Jan 12, 2020 3:33 PM CST
Welcome! @sarahfrompittsburgh

I've never had any success getting my black eyed susan vines large enough to cover trellis. The ones I had never even made any seed, always a frost before they had time too. I don't think you will have a problem in that area.

I'm a morning glory fan and grow lots of them. If you find they are coming up too much if you run a lawn mower or weed wacker over them before they get going they wont grow back. I always try and get mine down in the fall before too many seeds set. I know a lot of people hate them for that reason.

You can try ipomoea tricolor, as in Heavenly Blue, Blue Star or Flying saucers, they're not near as weedy as the purpureas. Also Ipomoea nil is not invasive especially here in PA.
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steve_mass
Jan 18, 2020 9:09 AM CST
Black eyed Susan vine is an annual vine (zone 5b here). I grew it for the first time last year. It bloomed for me, but not until late July. Annual vines will work, but they will bloom later in the growing season, especially if you direct sow. My suggestion is to either start them early from seed inside or look for plants to buy. Sometimes it's hard to find annual vine plants, but I've seen them in local nurseries or online. Another annual vine you might like is Cobea scandens (cup and saucer vine). Photo below.

Cup and Saucer vine, these two flowers are from the same plant.
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Name: Marilyn
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RobinD
Jan 18, 2020 1:38 PM CST
I have trouble with annual vines also.....best vine for me was a perennial sweet pea......lasted for many years on an old fence until the trees shaded it out......
Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jan 27, 2020 3:54 AM CST

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Been growing BES vines for years never see them reseed here in NJ .. always assumed the birds or critters took the seeds away .. the last 2 years they were in a container on the ground and went up and over the awning on the deck.. not every year is so successful with them
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Hinmo24t
Sep 29, 2020 12:26 PM CST
wisteria or porcelain berry. jp theyre both very invasive
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pinkruffles
Sep 29, 2020 4:04 PM CST
Someone suggested perennial sweet pea vine. I have it and I hate it--it reseeds all over the place and the vines are impossible to pull out by the roots, so I can't get rid of them, and they ride over everything else on my bank. I do grow BES vine from seed in the house--it's a slow starter for me, but looks fairly nice by the end of the summer. I say fairly nice because it seems like most of the flowers are on the top half of the trellis. It's really a pretty little flower--I've tried the Blushing Susie variety--my favorite so far, and the African Sunset variety which has many darker terra cotta and reddish colored shades, along with the lighter yellow flowers. I've collected some of the seeds, but haven't tried growing them yet, because somewhere I read that they won't come true from seed. I have not had a problem with them being invasive. I think one or two may have reseeded themselves , probably because they were near the foundation of the house. Hope this is helpful to you Smiling

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