Roses forum: James Galway rose as a climber

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Whitepeony
Jan 17, 2020 4:55 PM CST
We put a small metal arch in the garden over a pathway near our patio.This trellis/arch is about 7 feet tall. I ordered James Galway rose as a climber to go over the arch. The rose plant to be shipped in April - I was very excited, until reading reviews on various sites....it seems that this rose is more often grown as a free standing plant or at least against a wall or fence. Many reviews mention that stems are too rigid and thick to be trained as a climber... I am now worried that I made a wrong choice getting James Galway to be trained on the arch. I am new to roses (it is my second rose, in fact). The space where I plan to plant this climbing rose is not large either. Does anybody have experience with James Galway trained over a compact arch? Maybe you can suggest another climber that will work better in this arrangement? As I said, I am new to roses, so any advise will be greatly appreciated! 🥀🤗
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Jan 17, 2020 5:14 PM CST
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zuzu
Jan 17, 2020 5:41 PM CST

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I've never grown James Galway, but I do know that it has a climbing habit and easily can reach 10 feet in height. In my experience, even canes that ultimately grow to be "rigid and thick" are pliable enough to be trained at the start. You'll just have to keep an eye on the rose and train the canes before they lose their flexibility.
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plantladylin
Jan 17, 2020 5:56 PM CST
I know nothing about Roses but here's our database entry, with photos and growing information for the beautiful Rose (Rosa 'James Galway')
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porkpal
Jan 17, 2020 9:35 PM CST
I see @Calif_Sue has a photo of it. Perhaps she can help you decide.
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zuzu
Jan 17, 2020 10:12 PM CST

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Sue's photo is one of hundreds she took at the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden, so she might not remember any details of the rose. @AnnKNCalif is more likely to know something about the rose's growing habit.

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AnnKNCalif
Jan 17, 2020 11:31 PM CST
Hi Whitepeony -

I've had my two James Galway plants for two years - one is an own root and the other is grafted. I'm growing them as tall shrubs because they seem to naturally want to grow that way. A woman named Helen who posts on another forum is growing JG as a climber that's easily 10ft tall. You might want to check out the posts on the forum below but especially the first one from Helen where she shows her magnificent JG!

https://www.gardenweb.com/disc...

For your arch, I think I would recommend The Wedgwood Rose which is more pliable and has fragrant and lovely pink blooms; it might also bloom a bit more frequently than JG. SoCalGardenut has a photo in the plant database that provides a good example how it can grow as a climber.

Hope that helps!
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Whitepeony
Jan 17, 2020 11:50 PM CST
zuzu said:I've never grown James Galway, but I do know that it has a climbing habit and easily can reach 10 feet in height. In my experience, even canes that ultimately grow to be "rigid and thick" are pliable enough to be trained at the start. You'll just have to keep an eye on the rose and train the canes before they lose their flexibility.

Thank you - I will give it a try then! . Was not sure if they are pliable enough even when young. When I was searching even YouTube most of Galway's reviews were showing it as a shrub...
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vaporvac
Jan 18, 2020 1:11 AM CST
Here is another post from the gardenweb that shows James Galway on an arch similarly sized to yours. Scroll down to the bottom of this amazing post to see it most recently in June. I believe this zone is 8A equivalent.
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SoCalGardenNut
Jan 20, 2020 2:05 AM CST
I have James Galway as a climber against a wall. I had many flowers. I'll see if I can dig up some pictures.
I found some, but not great.

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Berrycajun
Jan 24, 2020 9:43 PM CST
i just planted


I just planted a bunch of new roses and did months of research before doing so. They are all repeat bloomers and fragrant.

i have the ones I'm recommending, but I'm not recommending them based on experience since they are newly planted. I did a LOT of research though and read many reviews on many sites before deciding which roses to add to my yard.

I'm copy pasting what i wrote in my notes for climbers. Oh remember that many of these come in climbing form as well as shrub form, so make sure you buy the climber.

Clotilde Soupert is said to grow super fast and be a beautiful almost white buff pink. Light light pink in middle with white petals on outside. Smaller flowers but covered in them many months. She is tall. Thorns but nothing like new dawn thorns. Easy to train.

Crepuscule is light peachy buff apricot with no thorns. FULL SUN IS A MUST. Slow grower so be patient. Repeat bloomer several months. Disease resistant. Many say it looks like what you see in magazines. Blooms all the way to the bottom.

Eden is a favorite of everyone. So beautiful. Easy. Eden pretty pink with cream edges big & fat. vigorous. full sun. Repeat bloomer several months. If i remember correctly, some say she balls sometimes, but maybe it's not this rose??

Cornelia a peach pink rose dies well in shade and thornless

Madame Alfred Carriere will definitely grow in shade (verified by many) she's white with a TOUCH of pink repeat bloomer several months and flexible and not too thorny. Some say will grow to 20feet

Iceberg is a beautiful white and when in full bloom is like an iceberg covered in petals. I have had this one for a year and she really is stunning and carefree.

Sombreiul is beautiful creamy white tinged with pink repeat bloomer full sun. Short/won't swallow house. Repeat bloomer

Generous gardener is one I've heard good things about too. Repeat bloomer. Disease resistant. Very floriferous.

Good luck! I can't wait for the first flush on some of my new roses. Buds are forming now.

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SoCalGardenNut
Jan 31, 2020 7:22 PM CST
I finally found the picture of James Galway in my garden. The one on the right is a James Galway. Pretty productive.

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rhondadoodle
Jul 13, 2020 4:48 PM CST
Hi there
I have many rose bushes here in my garden....56 and more coming and I will tell you about my very favorite and that is James Galway! Yes he grows tall...yes, you can train him to go on an arch! He is very nearly thornless and Iet him grow as tall as he wants and yes he will grow to 15 ft if left to his own way. Whenever it rains I wish I would have him on an arch but when we moved here there was ring of 5 James Galways and they pretty much support each other. I think you made a superb choice! This is one spectacular and easy care rose and I sure hope you love it as much as I do!



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Mike
Jul 13, 2020 6:43 PM CST
It's such an exquisite rose...


bart2018
Jul 14, 2020 4:36 AM CST
Just thought I'd add my experience with James Galway,for what it's worth. Mine grew into a giant,but I found it frustrating beyond words; it's habit was like that of a huge Hybrid Tea,with all the flowers way up where I couldn't see them. The canes were, indeed, so thick and rigid that training them was basically unsuccessful;nor did it flower with great enthusiasm.Often I was tempted to sp this rose,thinking that it would be adapted only to grow as a climber or on a wall- that is, a flat, rigid surface. I held off, because the foliage is so nice and deep green, so healthy, and the plant is thornless and endearingly vigorous,constantly sending up new basals. So finally last autumn I decided to just cut it way back,thinking that perhaps it was one of those roses that just got "too big for it's britches",i.e.,put too much energy into just growing and being huge, so that there just wasn't enough left for flowering. I think I took out all the oldest canes, cut it down to be about chest high (before it towered way over my head). I was delighted to see that this spring, it not only bloomed much better,but also sent out much thinner, more flexible canes. So I guess my opinion is that it wouldn't be my number one choice for an arch,though it might work. If I had a wall for it that would be my first choice.The flowers can be very beautiful indeed, health is perfect as is vigour.

SunnyinMichigan
Jul 20, 2020 5:36 AM CST
I have an older James Galway; tall, gawky growth that is more upright shrub than pliable climber. Steady bloomer, disease free, not fragrant to my nose.
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