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Jan 30, 2020 4:32 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
It hit me today, upon reading daylily book 6 of innumerable, that I have no Complete Self daylilies. Then, I realized that I don't think I've ever seen one at a daylily farm, or horticultural center, or public garden, or arboretum.

Do you grow any Complete Selfs? If yes, would you mind sharing pics?
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Jan 30, 2020 5:22 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I had to look the term up. If this is the definition you would go by for a complete self, I don't know of any.
" In a complete self the segments, throat, pistil and stamens will all be the same color."
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Jan 30, 2020 6:05 PM CST
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
The daylily dictionary gives this:
"A flower having perianth segments all of the same color. The throat region can be a different color. In a complete self the segments, throat, pistil and stamens will all be the same color. "

It gives these two cultivars as examples - 'Jerusalem' and 'Satanic Majesty'
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Jan 30, 2020 6:08 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I did a search on the AHS site just now and found https://www.daylilies.org/Dayl...
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Jan 30, 2020 6:58 PM CST
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Three Rivers gold is a complete self...

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Jan 30, 2020 7:05 PM CST
Name: Dave
Wood Co TX & Huron Co MI
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Happy Returns, etc. There seem to be many in the yellow/melon/orange colors.
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Jan 30, 2020 7:51 PM CST
Name: Robert R.
Wharton, TX (Zone 9a)
Here's an unregistered dip that I have had growing in my garden for the past thirty years.... It pretty much fits the description....

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Jan 30, 2020 9:06 PM CST
Name: Roger & Karen
Birmingham, Al (Zone 7b)
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Golden Hibiscus



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Jan 30, 2020 11:35 PM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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Interesting topic. I will have to watch for this in my garden this coming season.
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Jan 30, 2020 11:40 PM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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Am I looking at this correctly? Does Buttered Popcorn qualify as a complete self?
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Jan 31, 2020 10:01 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I think it does and I have it in my garden!
Edited to add:
I guess I am not very observant.I often looked at Buttered Popcorn and admired the color and how it stood out in the garden. I don't think I ever realized one reason it did was because it was a complete self and that the total bloom being the same color seems to make the bloom stand out more.
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Jan 31, 2020 3:17 PM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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Agreed! I don't pay a lot of attention to the pistils and stamen compared to the color of the bloom. I have noticed different colors of pistils and stamen, but had never given a thought to the 'complete self' daylily.

After looking at all of my pictures, I think Buttered Popcorn may be the only one that I have like that.
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Jan 31, 2020 7:14 PM CST
Name: Marcia
Rochester, ny, zone 6 (Zone 6b)
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I am guessing these are complete selves I have
Jerusalum
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Mary Todd
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Barbara Mitchell
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Bertie Ferris
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Kindly Light
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Jan 31, 2020 9:42 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
blue23rose said:Agreed! I don't pay a lot of attention to the pistils and stamen compared to the color of the bloom. I have noticed different colors of pistils and stamen, but had never given a thought to the 'complete self' daylily.

After looking at all of my pictures, I think Buttered Popcorn may be the only one that I have like that.


I think the definition also assumes that the throat is the same color as the petals, which are the same color as the pistils and stamens...no eye or watermark or halo or edge.

It's pretty pathetic that I have posted this thread and have been growing several complete selfs for years, including Buttered Popcorn!

Now that I know what the devil I'm looking for, I have several:

Star Dream (since 2007)


Buttered Popcorn (since 2011)


Big Time Happy (since 2015)
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Happy Returns (since 2013, although a green throat might disqualify it)
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Treasure Room (since 2015, although lighter midribs might disqualify it)


Savannah Debutante (since 2016)
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Seaside Scallop (since 2015)
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So...I'm like D'Oh! D'Oh! D'Oh! Blinking
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Jan 31, 2020 9:44 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
DaylilyDazzled said:I am guessing these are complete selves I have
Jerusalum
Mary Todd
Barbara Mitchell
Bertie Ferris
Kindly Light


I do believe you're correct!!!
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Jan 31, 2020 9:47 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
admmad said:The daylily dictionary gives this:
"A flower having perianth segments all of the same color. The throat region can be a different color. In a complete self the segments, throat, pistil and stamens will all be the same color. "

It gives these two cultivars as examples - 'Jerusalem' and 'Satanic Majesty'


I think the first two sentences you quoted give the definition of a self. The third sentence gives the definition of a complete self.
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Jan 31, 2020 9:48 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
Char said:Three Rivers gold is a complete self...



That one is gorgeous!
Hardy hibiscus are a hobby, but daylilies are an obsession.
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Jan 31, 2020 9:52 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
SunriseSide said:Happy Returns, etc. There seem to be many in the yellow/melon/orange colors.


After finally realizing I have a bunch, I came to that same conclusion. I wonder if there are any red or purple ones? That'd be really unique.

I know selfs aren't all the rage these days, and seemingly may never be again, but I for one would love to see a deep purple or red black complete self!
Hardy hibiscus are a hobby, but daylilies are an obsession.
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Jan 31, 2020 9:55 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
I have far too many yellows for some reason. I'm not even very fond of that color. Rolling on the floor laughing

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Several of the newer-to-me yellows (Carolicolossal, Condilla, Goldie Fritz, Precious de Oro, Solar Attack, Yellow Light [Smokey's garden name] and even H. citrina) are complete selfs. I'm really a dunce. Still, the more you know...

I do have one yellow self, Isaac, which is think is disqualified by a very green throat.
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Jan 31, 2020 9:57 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
blue23rose said:Am I looking at this correctly? Does Buttered Popcorn qualify as a complete self?


I sure think it does!
Hardy hibiscus are a hobby, but daylilies are an obsession.

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