Have any of you seen or grown these roses? If so, do you have any information at all about them? How big they might get, what sort of habit, nice foliage or not, disease susceptibility, fragrance, charm, ginormous thorns, etc. Anything at all, really. I don't care what zone you are in, there is so little out there about these two roses that I'll be happy to hear from anyone.
Thanks so much!