Irises forum: Naturalizing Bearded iris

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Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Feb 21, 2020 10:42 PM CST
Spring is only a month away, can't you believe it? Sooner or later we'll be back outside, with less less time to spare on the forums. This has been on my mind for a little while, so why wait any longer?

When I was a little boy, my dad had a flower bed filled with a NOID iris behind the garage. Their clumps were always so big and beautiful, so big that they were growing outside the border. I don't think I could compare any iris with blooms or foliage healthier looking than his.

We moved to a new home when I was 8 and took some of those irises with us, and planted them in the backyard along the north fence line.

Years later (in the last year), my dad dug me a clump of iris and said "you'll like these", and smiled as he plopped them in my hand. He had other irises, so why these, I was a bit puzzled and waited until spring to find out why. It brought me joy and memories of my childhood to see them again, although realizing the ones he gave me I already had at my home and were also NOIDs.
I called up my dad and texted him a thank you + a pic of the iris. Later he called and told me something that I look forward doing. The irises my dad gave me, he never touched, like never watered weeded treated etc. Basically naturalized. I've never naturalized irises before; though I do know there are bearded iris abandoned and overgrown with weeds that have been in native flora for years, and are still flourishing there. Yet, research also states to keep irises maintained. So there's a possibility that not all, but some Tb's would be fine in that kind of an environment. But which ones? Shrug!

Here's a couple pictures of my childhood iris at my house. AKA "Flavescens". Thanks to a social media friend's post, I now know the identification.
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Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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GreenIris
Feb 21, 2020 11:25 PM CST
Ian: I really enjoyed your story: A decade ago , the house I live in now, was a short sale. It sat empty for 5 months with no one watering while the bank made their decision. We have hot summers here as I live in the desert. There were weeds that were literally 10 feet tall when we finally could buy the house
Once moved in, there were 3 clumps of Iris I noticed still alive. My Mom had Irises when I was young and I always admired them but had not thought too much else about them through the years.
Well those 3 tough clumps changed it all for me. They ended up being a yellow historical I believe is Golden Cataract. The following Spring, after being neglected the previous year, they bloomed like crazy. I think their tenacity was part of what sent me into a now decade long love affair with the flower.
So a long story to get to my main point: I agree some Irises could probably survive without care.
Oh P.S. One clump grows in the grass Smiling
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Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Feb 22, 2020 9:08 AM CST
GreenIris said:. They ended up being a yellow historical I believe is Golden Cataract:


~Elsa I did some research and it seems like a lot of Siberians and classic/historical bearded irises are the ones to naturalize.

One of them I thought was really pretty was iris Pallida. They can take more shade, and handle more water than other bearded. They can compete with grass and other weeds.


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Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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GreenIris
Feb 22, 2020 11:39 AM CST
I haven't tried Pallida yet. I will have to. Here is my Grass clumper. It's early yet so it is just starting to wake up. How do I clean the Iris grass clump in the fall. I weed wack to about 2" tall. No problem..It comes back as strong as the clumps in the garden. I wouldn't do that with most my irises but this one can take it.

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Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Feb 23, 2020 6:49 PM CST
GreenIris said:Here is my Grass clumpier. It's early yet so it is just starting to wake up. How do I clean the Iris grass clump in the fall. I weed wack to about 2" tall. No problem..It comes back as strong as the clumps in the garden.


I do forget I have irises in a naturalized row of Stella de Oro Daylilies. I can't say those irises are 100% naturalized (never touched), they get cut down during fall when I mow my acreage one last time.
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Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Region: New Mexico Region: United States of America Irises Region: Southwest Gardening Dog Lover
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GreenIris
Feb 23, 2020 8:03 PM CST
Oh they are pretty!!!
I think the people who grow Irises are about as special as the flower itself!
Name: Jim Chisum
Mormon Lake AZ (Zone 5b)
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MrGreenShorts
May 23, 2020 7:12 AM CST
New guy to forum. Great story. Is there some direction as to identifying my bearded iris? I have a book and it seems to be "Alcaraz" the hanging dog ear but the book describes it as a tall and mine max out at only 25 inches. My great grandmother would have planted them in the 1920-30's. Have they shrunk over the years? Or is it ok that they do not reach the 30+inches as described in the book?
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
May 23, 2020 7:25 AM CST
contact the Historic Iris Preservation society (HIPS) for help on the ID of your iris.
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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grannysgarden
May 25, 2020 2:56 PM CST
Welcome to the iris forum, Jim. Your iris is more than likely a seedling from the original plant. Lucy is right, check with HIPS to see if they can narrow it down a bit and then check back here. Others who grow the historic irises may have some clues. Smiling Good luck. Thumbs up
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Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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lauriemorningglory
May 25, 2020 5:01 PM CST
Welcome! Good luck on the ID!
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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crowrita1
May 26, 2020 9:31 AM CST
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