Daylilies forum: OK experts, are these daylilies in trouble?

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Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 7, 2020 2:59 PM CST
So these daylilies don't look so good. There's a little leaf-browning on many of mine (that started when we dipped below freezing) but these plants seem yellowed and twisted and just not growing right. Chocolate Ripples, Reigning Passion, and Pride of Pensacola in particular look terrible.

Can you tell anything from the pics? Is this that vaguely-described "spring sickness" I keep hearing about? Is it just freeze damage? If so, all of the others bounced back days ago.

Should I do anything? (If you open the pics you can see the plants much more clearly.)
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 7, 2020 3:12 PM CST
It doesn't look quite like spring sickness, my guess would be freeze damage. Spring sickness looks like this:

http://web.ncf.ca/ep568/galler...
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 7, 2020 3:38 PM CST
I agree
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 7, 2020 3:57 PM CST
sooby said:It doesn't look quite like spring sickness, my guess would be freeze damage. Spring sickness looks like this:

http://web.ncf.ca/ep568/galler...


Thanks, Sue and Larry. I appreciate your feedback.

If they don't bounce back this week (eventual high in the 70s after tonight's low in the 20s) I'll know they need some extra attention.

Is there anything I should do for freeze damage?
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 7, 2020 4:03 PM CST
If they were larger and had more leaves I might prune the brown leaves, but being they are so small and might need all the green leaf surface they can get, I would just let them grow out of it. Then when they get a bit larger and stronger give some milorganite to green them up, if they have not already been fertilized.
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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Mar 7, 2020 4:28 PM CST
I agree, I would just let them grow out of it.
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Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Mar 7, 2020 4:53 PM CST
Definitely NOT spring sickness. Believe me I know...from experience year after year. But they always seem to grow out if it. Shrug! It's a puzzle.
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Name: Roger & Karen
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Diggerofdirt
Mar 7, 2020 6:17 PM CST
The fans look young to me, probally got bit by cold snap.
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Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 9, 2020 6:30 PM CST
Seedfork said:If they were larger and had more leaves I might prune the brown leaves, but being they are so small and might need all the green leaf surface they can get, I would just let them grow out of it. Then when they get a bit larger and stronger give some milorganite to green them up, if they have not already been fertilized.


Excellent guidance, Larry. Thank you! I inspected closely today, and a large number of the affected fans had twisted, leaning, or crinkled growth.

We're due for some warm, sunny days. I'll hit them with some Milorganite over the weekend if it appears we're done with sub-freezing temps.

I'm leery of getting more growth started. Our last frost/freeze date isn't til April 15. Granted, this isn't a normal winter, so it might be I can ignore that date.
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Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 9, 2020 6:34 PM CST
petruske said:Definitely NOT spring sickness. Believe me I know...from experience year after year. But they always seem to grow out if it. Shrug! It's a puzzle.


So even if it IS (or develops into) spring sickness, they might grow out of it? I've read that...just kinda scoffed at it bc it seemed too good to be true.

I'm not playing Taps yet...well, except for Pride of Pensacola. I think it's done for. No new green, just yellow and brown. Booooooo.

Thanks again to all who responded...Valerie, Sue P., Roger & Karen.
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Name: Maryl
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Maryl
Mar 9, 2020 7:15 PM CST
If you give a slight tug to the leaves on top and they stay attached to the crown and aren't mushy, more then likely they will grow out of whatever this is. As long as you have an intact crown there's always hope..............I get a little spring sickness every year. Can't tell you which ones, because I'm too busy working on my other daylilies to keep constantly checking on them. Whatever ones they are/were they have survived over the years....Watch the watering though. Semi dormant roots, cold soil and lots of moisture could equal rot - especially in pots...........Maryl
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 19, 2020 10:04 AM CST
Well, my problem may have started as freeze damage, but it's definitely spring sickness now. Leaves are misshapen and "kinked" or "crinkled." Some fans are keeling over onto their sides...actually MANY fans are doing that. New growth is just...wrong. Leaves are growing but not opening flat...they look like they're glued shut. Most new growth on those plants is yellow- and or brown-streaked and splitting.

I'm going to hope for the best.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 19, 2020 12:06 PM CST
Ken, can you post a picture or two? The keeling over sounds like spring sickness unless they are also floppy. Some of the other things could be something different.
Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Mar 19, 2020 12:33 PM CST
Sometimes plants will act a little strange when they first start to scape, but what you are describing sounds like more than that.
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 19, 2020 4:03 PM CST
Healthy-looking
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Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 19, 2020 4:25 PM CST
Unhealthy-looking - the ones that have keeled over ARE floppy. What's that an indicator of? And...now it appears some of those may have straightened up lol.

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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Mar 19, 2020 4:49 PM CST
Yes, some of that does look like spring sickness. Sometimes central leaves can go floppy for no apparent reason which is likely not related to spring sickness, then they recover. Sometimes central leaves rot off and detach and those are floppy and may be related to spring sickness but that's uncertain.
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
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MrKGDickie
Mar 20, 2020 9:50 AM CST
sooby said:Yes, some of that does look like spring sickness. Sometimes central leaves can go floppy for no apparent reason which is likely not related to spring sickness, then they recover. Sometimes central leaves rot off and detach and those are floppy and may be related to spring sickness but that's uncertain.


Thanks, Sue! Definitely no rot yet, but new growth on many is emerging kinked/crimped or sealed together along length of the leaf.

What do you think, @seedfork? @petruske? I know you're super busy in the garden, and with life in the kooky times. No rush on replying!
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Mar 20, 2020 10:14 AM CST
Crimped or sealed along the length could be the result of the freeze damage stopping them from unfurling properly, so would not necessaarily be related to spring sickness.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 20, 2020 1:25 PM CST
Had a guy over to get a quote on redoing the shower, had to go to town for my wife, new AC unit on the fritz and having a repairman over. Plus had some people over to pick up some daylilies.
I wish I could provide a answer to your questions, but I will just agree with sooby, she is more qualified than me for sure to give an opinion.

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