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Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Mar 25, 2020 12:02 PM CST
Okay for the last two or three years we have been buying roses and collecting them and planting them in our yard at our house that we had purchased. Well the wife's dad passed away, and we have been staying out at her parents Farm to help her mom. She can't get around very well on her own. We inherited the farm when her dad passed away and of course her mom has lifetime living rights. But we have to stay out there to help her mom. So I want to take all my roses and transplant them out at our farm. Where we are going to be living. They have just come out of dormancy for the second time. We had some weird weather it got warm sunny they come out of dormancy and started growing, and then we got winter all over again. And now they're growing again and I want to transplant them at our new property is it okay to dig them up and Transplant them now when they have just come out of dormancy it's just starting to leaf out All the buddlets are like an inch long on the canes or should I wait to dig them up and transplant them because I don't want to leave them. I have like 47 roses I thought about just taking a cuttings of each one and rooting them and planting them but that takes forever. I'm just worried about shocking them. I'm in zone 6a-bish like right on the line of A and B. Some maps show me in A and some show me in B.

Thoughts?
Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Mar 25, 2020 12:14 PM CST
Its the ideal time to dig. Have your hole ready. Prune them back to compensate for root loss. Dig as much soil and root as possible and replant. Water in well and keep moist as they reestablish. I would not fertilize. Good luck....lots of work....
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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RpR
Mar 25, 2020 1:25 PM CST
Make sure you get as much root as possible, that makes a world of difference.
Get ALL the tap root and all should go well.
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vaporvac
Mar 25, 2020 1:56 PM CST
Exactly what is said above~! Getting as large a rootball as possible is the best advice as then there is little disturbance. Now is the perfect time.... I was out there playing musical roses myself today! Sorry to hear about your FinL, but great that you can be with your MiL and help her out. I'm sure that's a great comfort to have you and her grandkids near.
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Mustbnuts
Mar 25, 2020 2:06 PM CST
I am echoing what everyone else said. So sorry to hear about the passing of your Father in Law. It is great that you will be helping your Mother in Law out. Your garden looked so beautiful last year. I am anxious to see it in its new location! I am sure your Mother in Law will also love it as well.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
Mar 25, 2020 6:05 PM CST
Thanks for everyones advice. If it's nice tomorrow. I'll start tomorrow. And get a few out here. She has around 7 now. A couple that we have gave her. She has a huge climber that was here when they moved in. It's a once flowering pink rose. It's almost 13ft tall. And 6ft wide. Its huge. But she nvr pruned them or deadheaded any of them. That's what I spent today doing. Cutting off all the rose hips and dead wood. They should explode this year. Being cut back and all the old wood cut off.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Mar 25, 2020 6:07 PM CST
Should I prune them back before I dig them up? Can I cut them back to like 2ft tall or so? I have several that are over 8ft tall... my Winchester Cathedral is 5ft wide and just under 8ft tall.
Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Mar 25, 2020 6:20 PM CST
I would prune them back before digging. Makes them easier to handle.
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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vaporvac
Mar 25, 2020 10:25 PM CST
Since you'll be pruning anyway, you might as well do it before digging.

bart2018
Mar 26, 2020 4:07 AM CST
Yes, prune them down somewhat, to make them easier to handle, but don't exaggerate: roses store energy in their canes. So maybe pruning an 8 footer down to 2 feet is kind of extreme? If you can handle it physically,maybe just take it down to 4 or 5 feet...However, being in a very different climate from yours, you must take what I say with a grain of salt. Good luck!
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Mar 26, 2020 6:04 PM CST
Yeah I have a once blooming old English rose that's around 13 years old. It was there when my wifes grandparents moved in. And it has around 60 canes big canes. That are over 8foot tall. It's about 6 foot wide. But idk what kind it is. To take a cutting and root it to move it here. I have the following that I want to move for sure.

Apricot Candy
Blaze Improved(CL)
Miranda Lambert
Iceberg
Autumn Sunblaze
Kordes Sunbelt
Paradise
Chrysler Imperial
Pretty In Pink(Eden)(CL)
Tournement of Roses
Dick Clark
Molineux
Winchest Cathedral
Ring of Fire
Sunnydew
Parade Gigi
Peppermint Pop
The old English old rose that I was talking about above.
Tess of the D'urberville
America (CL)
4th Of July(CL)

And we have 3 different Knockouts and a few double knockouts. And a sunny knockout. And a Coral Drift. Probably leave all the knockouts and drift. Bc I can just buy them again. But not really interested in moving them.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Apr 5, 2020 6:09 PM CST
So what's all you expert rose enthusiasts thoughts on planting my relocated Roses if your standing with your back against the wall looking away from the house you're looking NorthWest? With your back against the wall my compass says Northwest.

Thoughts?

They will be Molineux, Winchester Cathedral, Tess of the D'urberville, Blaze Improved, Miranda Lambert, Chrysler Imperial, Iceberg, Dick Clark, Sunnydew(Miniature), Ring Of Fire, Apricot Candy, and Kordes Polar Express.

The area gets sun about 3/4 of the day.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Apr 6, 2020 4:39 PM CST
Well so far I've planted 3 new Roses at our new farm.

Blue Girl
Don Juan(CL)
Pink Peace

And I've moved 3 of my David Austin's today.

Molineux
Winchester Cathedral
Tess Of The D'urberville

I'm really worried my 3 DA's wont survive the transplant. I used really good soil. Dug really deep removing them. And watered them each very deep.

Molineux
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Tess of the D'urberville
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Winchester Cathedral
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I'm praying they survive.
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vaporvac
Apr 7, 2020 12:28 AM CST
They will be fine. Good job moving them.
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Mustbnuts
Apr 7, 2020 12:29 AM CST
Seth/Sam, I think your DA roses should be OK. I have moved several of mine and they are much hardier than one would think. They may sulk for a while but it is so early in the spring, I think they will be fine. Sounds like you did everything right. I don't envy you. Moving roses is hard and heavy work.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Apr 7, 2020 9:11 AM CST
Yeah both Molineux and Tess are perky as can be today. But Winchester is not liking life right now. But I also didnt cut it down size wise. It was just so nicely shaped. I didnt wanna cut canes. And most of them are so big n thick. But shes very droopy yesterday and today. Fingers crossed. And only 30+ more to move lol. I appreciate everyones help on here. I value everyones opinion on here.
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vaporvac
Apr 7, 2020 12:51 PM CST
WC may lose its current leaves, but with water etc it will regrow them as its roots establish. I had this happen a couple of years ago with a couple of huge New Dawn.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
Apr 7, 2020 12:53 PM CST
Well I got two more of my roses moved today.

Dick Clark
Chrysler Imperial

I still have the following to move.
Miranda Lambert
Blaze Improved
Polar Express
Sunnydew(Miniature)
Apricot Candy
Tournament of Roses
Iceberg(Non Cl)
Paradise
Pretty In Pink(Eden Cl)
Ring Of Fire
Parade Gigi(Miniature)
4th Of July(Cl)
America(Cl)
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
Apr 7, 2020 12:55 PM CST
vaporvac said:WC may lose its current leaves, but with water etc it will regrow them as its roots establish. I had this happen a couple of years ago with a couple of huge New Dawn.


Do you think I should cut it down size wise some. It has buds and everything on it.
All the new growth is droopy. But we just had a really good rain. And it's not as droopy now.
Name: Porkpal
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Apr 7, 2020 12:57 PM CST
It sounds as if it is going to be okay.
Porkpal

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