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Name: William Groth
Houston, TX zone 9a
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Willinator
May 9, 2020 1:52 PM CST
Well my roses are doing just great even with a cool day like today
with temperatures from 65 F to the mid 70's this afternoon.
Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant.
Robert Louis Stevenson
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
May 9, 2020 2:33 PM CST
Willinator said:Well my roses are doing just great even with a cool day like today
with temperatures from 65 F to the mid 70's this afternoon.


Good for you
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
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hampartsum
May 9, 2020 3:09 PM CST
Weluvroses said:
The sun came back and quit spitting snow. My sheets got wet and heavy. Its 44° here now. So I uncovered them. Had several new growths broke off. I'm so irritated about it. Some of them are bare root roses that just started growing. I'm so aggravated with mother mutate right now. Like I'm literally fuming.

I highlighted your final state...I've been going through this for many years until...
I decided that ALL my roses need a good start in spring and started all new bare roots coming to my yard inside a greenhouse. It doesn't need to be fancy. A walk through polytunnel will do it.
Because I'm a confessed stubborn and slightly towards the stingy side...I post-poned taking action and recover a small greenhouse that was erected for our vegetables at the seeding/plug stage. We finally negotiated that with my godson.I really need my roses inside for not that long about two months. Then they leaf out properly, never get any of these elements ( strong wind+frost+downpours+snow) all untimely. I've posted my indoor spring bloom symphony previously. For guys like us that are going to keep adding roses for many years to come, its an indispensable tool.
Of course you are in the middle of it just now. Sighing! I learnt sometime ago that if I can envision a solution to a source of identified frustration then I can pull together enough effort to put up with the present adversity knowingly that it will be the last time Grumbling . Climatic temperamental uncertainty ( which ever be its cause) can not be fixed. Instead, imho, a permanent protective structure will do it. Green Grin!

Arturo
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
May 9, 2020 6:00 PM CST
hampartsum said:
I highlighted your final state...I've been going through this for many years until...
I decided that ALL my roses need a good start in spring and started all new bare roots coming to my yard inside a greenhouse. It doesn't need to be fancy. A walk through polytunnel will do it.
Because I'm a confessed stubborn and slightly towards the stingy side...I post-poned taking action and recover a small greenhouse that was erected for our vegetables at the seeding/plug stage. We finally negotiated that with my godson.I really need my roses inside for not that long about two months. Then they leaf out properly, never get any of these elements ( strong wind+frost+downpours+snow) all untimely. I've posted my indoor spring bloom symphony previously. For guys like us that are going to keep adding roses for many years to come, its an indispensable tool.
Of course you are in the middle of it just now. Sighing! I learnt sometime ago that if I can envision a solution to a source of identified frustration then I can pull together enough effort to put up with the present adversity knowingly that it will be the last time Grumbling . Climatic temperamental uncertainty ( which ever be its cause) can not be fixed. Instead, imho, a permanent protective structure will do it. Green Grin!

Arturo


Yeah I have a small mini greenhouse. But all the roses I buy go straight into the ground. Bare root, potted, and even cuttings as soon as they root. Almost all of them make it. It's just irritating when new growth starts and mother nature goes off her rocker and does dumb stuff like snow in May lol. They will all survive. It just stinks losing all the new growth. Especially on the big order of David Austin's. Because I lost a lot of growth time to being delayed over a month for shipping. Then the frost getting to them. They were covered good. Nothing happen to them. But I lost several buds and new growth on Pink Peace, Blue Moon, John F Kennedy, White Dawn, Tournament of Roses, Mr. Lincoln, and a few others. They will all bounce back. Just take more time. Unfortunately though right now with our state quarantine I have plenty of it. We are still having cases come to light over this Covid-19 stuff.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
May 10, 2020 8:32 PM CST
Mill On The Floss will be here tomorrow. Excited for it. I picked up Eden(Cl), and Carding Mill the other day from a local nursery. Both 3gal. The Eden already had one flower almost all the way open. And has several buds as well. The Carding Mill is very wide. Lots of new shoots and basal canes. No buds yet. I got both of them planted. Carding Mill yesterday, and Eden today. Waiting on Burlington to email me back with in stock availablity so I can place that order with them.

Heres the new DA bed. The yard isnt even close to flat or level. So it looks like the blocks arent straight. But I used edging guard. So they have to be straight. They go up n down. Hopefully they will settle into the ground some so I can get them looking better.
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And you can see all the field I have to plant Roses. From this bed clear to the barn. I have 22 or so roses planted up by the barn already.

And here is my Burlington order list:


Cecile Brunner(Cl)
Clotilde Soupert 
Mme Alfred Carriere 
Reine des Violettes
Sombreuil
Souv de La Malmaison (Non Cl)

(Marchese Boccella or Jaques Cartier)
Not sure on the difference between these two roses. As they are listed as the same rose. But they're sold as different named varieties.

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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 11, 2020 2:21 PM CST
It showed up today. Very huge bare root. Ginormous thick canes. Bigger around than my thumb. Long thick roots. Exactly how DA bareroot roses should be. Super thick. I'm excited. Shes going in some water right now.

Mill On The Floss
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 12, 2020 9:22 PM CST
Mill On The Floss got her soak in. 26hrs of perfect Ph'ed water with Superthrive, kelp, and seaweed. Planted and watered in with the same mixture. I've noticed on bare roots ones that I have soaked with that mixture start to grow faster and bush out faster. Although it could be the variety just growing faster. But all the ones that I've used it on. Start faster. And I have it. So why not use it.
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 12, 2020 10:54 PM CST
Finally got my Burlington order in. Just sent payment.

I grabbed:
Souv de la Malmaison(Cl) 1gal
Cecile Brunner(Cl)
Mme Alfred Carriere
Reine des Violettes
Sombreuil
Name: William Groth
Houston, TX zone 9a
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Willinator
May 13, 2020 12:08 PM CST
I am going to provide a picture of the latest bloom on Souvenir de la Malmaison
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Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant.
Robert Louis Stevenson
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
May 13, 2020 2:13 PM CST
Willinator said:I am going to provide a picture of the latest bloom on Souvenir de la Malmaison
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Beautiful. I got the climbing version. But I think the blooms are pretty much the same. Hows the scent?
Name: William Groth
Houston, TX zone 9a
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Willinator
May 13, 2020 3:20 PM CST
Well mine are very fragrant. I have loved the bourbon roses that I have had. I use to have 'Maggie'
which at that time was a found rose (Bourbon). It got pretty big in the garden so I don't think it
would do well in a Pot or half barrel.
Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant.
Robert Louis Stevenson
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
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Weluvroses
May 15, 2020 6:15 PM CST
Willinator said:Well mine are very fragrant. I have loved the bourbon roses that I have had. I use to have 'Maggie'
which at that time was a found rose (Bourbon). It got pretty big in the garden so I don't think it
would do well in a Pot or half barrel.


Did it get big fast?
Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 15, 2020 6:18 PM CST
Fragrant Cloud is starting to bloom. The scent is unreal.
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 15, 2020 6:18 PM CST
Fragrant Cloud is starting to bloom. The scent is unreal.
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 20, 2020 9:16 AM CST
My Burlington order showed up 2 days early. So I'm stoked about that. And the Cecil Brunner(Cl) has a tiny bloom halfway open and has 3 other buds on it. And is the largest band I have ever seen. Almost 18" tall with multiple canes coming off of it. But unfortunately I'm gonna have to remove them Crying to let the band work on growing roots instead of blooming. I may leave the one that's halfway open. I got 4 bands and one 1gal. Which is Souv De La Malmaison. The entire order came packed very well. And came from Cali clear to WV in 3 days. Shipped out Monday and got here this morning.

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Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Roses Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
hampartsum
May 20, 2020 9:30 AM CST
Good for you seth! Hurray!
Its such a pleasure when something works out fine.... nodding
(although one would expect it the normal way....
rarely that happens nowadays...
less so with the COVID...( an easy reason to jump into...).
I'm just sharing the vicarious happiness brought about by your success!
Thank You!
Arturo
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
May 20, 2020 11:31 AM CST
That's great. I've only ever ordered her bands. How much was shipping to WV as I'm nearby.
Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 20, 2020 12:24 PM CST
vaporvac said:That's great. I've only ever ordered her bands. How much was shipping to WV as I'm nearby.


It wasnt really bad. Considering I had a 1gal pot as well. 4 bands and 1gal $36.75 but it wouldve been a lot cheaper without the 1gal. But she only had the Souv De La Malmaison(Cl) in 1gal, and I wanted the (Cl) version. But considering I got it in 2 actual shipping days is unreal clear from Cali. But it's also tracked and insured. But I got all 5 shipped for $130.00 even. It was 129.xx I just paid 130. And honestly the size of the bands compared to Rogue Valley, or High Country. Are double and triple the size of ones I gotten from them.
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Name: Seth n Sam .....
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Weluvroses
May 20, 2020 12:36 PM CST
One of the unknown rose bushes at our new farm. For the last 15 years has never been deadheaded, watered, feed, or pruned in any matter. This early spring I trimmed it up. Cut all the dead wood out. A bunch of small tiny twig like canes. And gave it a good feeding with rosetone dug into the soil around it. And two feedings of Alaskan Fish Emulsion. I have never seen crowns like this from it. The last few years it had mostly solitary born blooms. And the occasional 3 bloom crowns. But this year with me taking care of it now. How about some 12,15, and 18 crown blooms. Nvr in my life have I seen so many blooms. I thought my unknown pink rose at our old house that @hampartsum was trying to find out what it is was had a lot.
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And all of my roses that were dug up and transplanted have releaves out and are now budding up. All the DAs in the memorial bed are growing new sprouts all over. The Mill On The Floss is starting to grow shoots as well. Everything is looking really good. Hoping for a wonder summer filled with blooms.
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Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche,Rio Negro, Argentina (Zone 8a)
Roses Dahlias Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
hampartsum
May 20, 2020 2:05 PM CST
Wow Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
So this is a new NOID that is growing in your new farm? a New ID search! Do you remember the colour...I can't wait!
Man ,whatever your're doing, your're doing extremely well, my congrats: I tip my hat to you.
Arturo
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